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richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

Not all High Schools and University/Colleges have animal mascots. As discussed elsewhere USC has Trojans (probably not the prophylactic). Sanford has a color, cardinal. Or maybe a high-ranking catholic. But choosing which mascot should go with your high-school or college main character is one of the many duties of an author. Somewhat easier if you send him to a real school.

I offer my experiences as possible starting points. Some of them are a little amusing. Perhaps. I went to 9th grade to Ballard High in Seattle. Their mascot was the beaver. Not the female sexual apparatus, the beaver that builds dams. Although there were a few students who wanted to examine other students beavers.

For the rest of my High-school career, I was a Hampton (Virginia) Crab. CR, CR, C R A B, Crabbers, Crabbers, Crabbers! Fairly tasty as crustaceans go.

I went to the University of Washington and was a Husky. The dog, not that heavy. Online research indicates 20 to 50 pounds overweight. "What's the difference between husky, and fat? | Yahoo Answers:

"Husky is between 20 and 50 pounds overweight. Fat is that, and more. Much more. Obese is when they need two canes to balance their fat selves or they need a motorized wheelchair or scooter because they ate so much that their poor joints can no longer support them for very long before they start crying out in pain."

Before the mascot was a Husky, the UW was the "Sundodgers". The chamber of Commerce was concerned about the bad publicity associated with it being cloudy or raining all the time, so the Administration required a name change, back in the 1920s. The male cheerleaders are still called the Sundodgers, at least in the mid 60s when I was there.

"Before 1920, The University of Washington had two mascots, the Indians and Vikings. In 1920, the Associated Students of the University of Washington (ASUW) voted to approve "Sundodger" as its official mascot. The mascot consisted of a smiling figure holding an umbrella, which was probably ahead of its time for 1920. The Sundodger was likely chosen as a tongue-in-cheek allusion to the city of Seattle's rainy weather. In 1922, after deciding that Sundodger was probably a poor idea, the student body held elections for a new mascot.

The issue with the Sundodger name lingered into 1922, when the student body felt that it held little to no meaning, nor was is truly representative of the state of Washington. In 1922, The Husky mascot (a previous runner up in the 1920 election) emerged as the winner.

The Husky was likely chosen due to its relative ease to draw, short name for use in newspapers at the time, and it represented the ferocity of the athletic program. The ASUW felt that The Husky was a true representation of the Seattle area because many viewed Seattle as the "Gateway to the Alaskan frontier", a phrase dating back to the Alaskan Gold Rush.

There are a certain number of jokes about going to the dogs.
Female teams deal with being called Bitches.

Later in life I earned an MBA at The College of Insurance. They had some intermural teams, bowling is the one I remember, that were the TCI Turtles. TCI is no more.
"In 2001, St. John's University in Jamaica, New York took over the college's programs, creating The School of Risk Management, Insurance and Actuarial Science (SRM). The Manhattan location of the college now houses many graduate business and professional programs of St. John's Peter J. Tobin College of Business."

St. Johns has a mascot. I am not sure I can claim any affiliation with it, but here is the online information I found. "Prior to the 1994โ€“95 school year, the university's nickname was the St. John's Redmen, which referenced the red uniforms worn by its teams in competition. The name was interpreted as a Native American reference in the 1960s, and the university did have a mascot (adorned in Native American dress), which eventually led to the team's name change to the Red Storm. The change happened at a time when there was mounting pressure on colleges and universities to adopt names more sensitive to Native American culture.[6][7] The Redmen name still remains popular among fans, however, as does "Johnnies". On September 18, 2009 the new mascot, which was voted on by students, was revealed; Johnny Thunderbird."

And so I have revealed all the mascots I have been associated with. Probably the most unique is the TCI Turtle. It had a hard shell and was difficult to kill.

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

Sanford has a color, cardinal. Or maybe a high-ranking catholic.

It could also be a bird.

Replies:   richardshagrin
richardshagrin ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

It could also be a bird.

"By Sean Howell
Freshmen, I know what you're thinking. We were all thinking it too at one point. Our mascot is ... a color?

Yeah, it kind of looks like blood, but it's not a name that exactly inspires opposing defensive backs to quake in their cleats either. If friends and relatives are scratching their heads about why you are going to a school that has a color as its mascot, or if your grandmother stitched you a quilt with a big Cardinal bird in the middle, then you can tell them this story, and tell it with pride.

The short version: We call ourselves the Cardinal because we were about a third of a century ahead of our time.

The long version: Stanford sports teams were called the Indians from 1930 to 1970, the logo being a caricature of a small Indian with a big nose. In 1970, a group of Native American students raised objections to dance performances before sporting events by a guy who called himself Prince Lightfoot.

In 1972, a group of about 50 Native American students and staff convinced then-University President Richard Lyman to remove the logo, rightly calling it "stereotypical, offensive and a mockery of Indian cultures." They held that an entire race cannot be used as entertainment.

Lyman agreed to remove the mascot in the sympathetic, progressive spirit of the University โ€” or because he was hearing about student protests up the bay in Berkeley and wanted no part of it. In any case, it would prove to be an enlightened move on Stanford's part โ€” the NCAA recently instituted a policy to ban 18 schools from using nicknames that referenced race beginning in 2006, but only in NCAA Championship competition. (Hey, Florida State can't be expected to ship all that Seminole merchandise to Third World countries, can it?) Fourteen of the 18 schools that fell under the sanctions have agreed to change their mascots.

As a side-note, Notre Dame was allowed to keep its mascot, a Fightin' Irishman. Apparently Irishmen don't object to being stereotyped as drunk, fighting bastards. (It's okay, I can say it. I'm Irish.)

Back to the Farm: The students were allowed to vote on the new mascot and chose Robber Barons, based on how they say Leland Stanford made his money. That was still too politically incorrect for the administration, which instead scoured the globe for the least potentially offensive nickname it could find, and landed on ... you guessed it: the color Cardinal. ("Crimson" and "Big Red" were already taken. And blue, everyone agreed, would just look silly.)

That, of course, brought on another issue: How do you represent a color when choosing a mascot? The student body allegedly rejected the idea of letting a guy run up and down the sidelines with a 5 inch-by-5 inch Cardinal-colored card. Then, a group of students (namely, the Stanford Band) turned their backs on the administration's choice, rejected the stilted convention that a mascot has to have something, anything, to do with the school's actual nickname. Also rejected was the notion that the mascot had to be animate.

Thus was born the Tree, the result of a tongue-in-cheek halftime show by the Band.

If you haven't seen the band, you should know that it can hardly be called a marching band. If you have ever been to a USC game, you will know that's a good thing. Members run onto the field in scatter formation and usually present a skit of some sort. In recent years, this format has gotten them banned from Notre Dame, after they imitated the Irish Potato Famine, as well as BYU, after they imitated Mormons by performing a ceremony in which five Dollies all dressed up as brides and married one of the band members.

Because the band is not sanctioned by the University, there are no official statistics on exactly how many places it is not allowed to go. But word is the band was forbidden from riding on several major airlines after band members tried to make a plane do a barrel roll by running from side to side, all at once. There is also a rumor that the band is not allowed to enter the People's Republic of China and is also barred from (nearly?) every hotel in Los Angeles.

The Tree, for its part, is known to dance around wildly while the band play and is the all-but-official mascot so you can go ahead and tell grandma to use it to replace that silly-looking bird on your quilt. If for some crazy reason you want to actually be the Tree, ehow.com has a great 13-step guide that focuses mainly on the use of duct tape.

So if sometime during Orientation you saw spaceships, a guy with a prosthetic penis and / or naked, paint-clad women (you're guaranteed to have run into at least two of the three), you can blame Richard Lyman โ€” or send him your thanks.

But even if the moniker Cardinal leaves a little something to be desired, rejoice that you're cheering on a real mascot, instead of a horse that isn't really from Troy or a bear named Oski whose lameness has to be seen to be believed โ€” for starters, he wears a sweater. Or start a petition in support of "Robber Barons.""

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

They held that an entire race cannot be used as entertainment.

So how do they explain the French...?

:)

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

So how do they explain the French...?

Technically, they're just a nationality, not a race.

As for explanations, it's simple. They're the kids on the block that EVERYONE beats up - and when they finally got enough of it and fought back, they pushed too far and got stomped even flatter. So they learned their lesson and just pretend now.

Replies:   graybyrd
graybyrd ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

Je vais chier dans ton flathat!

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@graybyrd

Je vais chier dans ton flathat!

I've heard that before, but the context I've never learned. What is the context of shitting in your hat?

Replies:   graybyrd
graybyrd ๐Ÿšซ

@Remus2

Early-day US Navy slanguage, sometimes used as an affirmation, sometimes as a condemnation. "Flat hats (or just "flathat") was the circular blue melton wool dress hat with a wool headband circled with a dark ribbon that ended with two tails, and a bloused wool fabric top that extended an inch or so beyond the band and lay flat to cover the top of the sailor's head. Prominent lettering on the front of the band said "U.S. Navy." It was always worn with a dress blue wool jumper and the 13-button front panel wool trousers.

So the expression became, "I'd hope to shit in your flathat!" or some such (like "fuckin' aye!") as a rowdy affirmation; or sometimes as a put-down: "I'd sooner shit in yer flathat!" Like all slanguage, it depends on time and place, and characters and events.

In the case of putting down the French with old, time-worn racial acrimony, the epithet is meant as just that: deserving of a turd in one's flathat, meant to be worn! Much like the old "if the foo shits, wear it!" story... disrespect the turd and calamity will follow!

Replies:   Remus2  StarFleet Carl
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@graybyrd

Thanks for the background/context. Now I understand.

StarFleet Carl ๐Ÿšซ

@graybyrd

Much like the old "if the foo shits, wear it!" story...

No jumping in the sea for me to clean the foo shit off ... :)

And you're wrong. It's not racial acrimony, it's national acrimony. I think John Ringo said it best - there's not a thing wrong with French soldiers individually, they're some of the best fighting men in the world. French generals, on the other hand ... :)

Replies:   joyR  graybyrd
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

To which the appropriate response is; "Oh John Ringo, No!"

graybyrd ๐Ÿšซ

@StarFleet Carl

You're right. Good catch. I was wrong to say "racial;" as soon as it was up and out of reach, I knew it should have said "national."

That done, please pass the Freedom Fries. I'm about to start on a book lauding our dear leader: "Forging the Path to Victory and Glory!"

PotomacBob ๐Ÿšซ

@richardshagrin

Many years ago I went to a University of Southern California football game. The Trojan in that game was a guy mounted on a horse (just guessing it wasn't a girl), outfitted in the school colors, and the costume was somebody's notion of what warriors in old Greece must have looked like (probably taken from a Hollywood studio's movie).

anim8ed ๐Ÿšซ

School mascot's can be quite entertaining. UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs comes to mind.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@anim8ed

School mascot's can be quite entertaining. UC Santa Cruz Banana Slugs comes to mind.

Okay, aside from the weirdness of having a slug as a school mascot, they could at least stick to something native to the state they are in.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

they could at least stick to something native to the state they are in.

Perhaps they named them to express their opinion of the State's representatives...? It has been said that politicians are like bananas, they are yellow, hang around in bunches and there is not a straight (honest) one amongst them. If they are even worse, then a banana slug would be an appropriate epithet.

Replies:   Remus2
Remus2 ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

It has been said that politicians are like bananas, they are yellow, hang around in bunches and there is not a straight (honest) one amongst them.

Gasp!!! How dare you speak the truth about politicians. What's this world coming to....

anim8ed ๐Ÿšซ

For your reading entertainment: https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomvellner/completely-bonkers-high-school-mascots

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