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An intellectual exercise involving werewolf stories....

blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

Well like the title says, what i want to talk about in this post is a bit of an intellectual exercise involving werewolf stories.

Ok so i was brainstorming adventures for a supernatural harem story i've been writing, i came up with the idea of integrating an adventure where the human male hero meets an alpha werewolf girl.

Anyway, the adventure starts out with our hero waiting in line in an unspecified chain coffee shop. In front of him he watches and records this beautiful woman verbally brow beat the poor guy behind the counter on his phone.

As the hero an this woman come in close proximity, her senses identify the scent of her mate. And who is the poor schmuck that is going to be the target of this alpha female? If you guessed our hero you would be right.

So i haven't worked out all the fine details of this yet. But basically she's not his type, i'd even go as far to say she's the kind of woman he runs away screaming from. He verbally makes it clear to the alpha woman several times.

Eventually the hero and this female alpha werewolf meet face to face and she shows him her werewolf.

But that's when one the supernatural girls in his harem intervenes subduing the female werewolf. Once the werewolf is restrained, the hero finds her cell phone among her discarded clothes and then calls up the female werewolf's father, who turns out to be the pack alpha.

Fortunately her father is the more reasonable type.

The basic point of the exchange between the pack alpha and the hero is for the hero to say the equivalent of "Here take your daughter I want nothing to do with her and leave me alone or it will cost you."

And this is where i hit the wall called "writer's block" because i have no idea how to follow this idea up.

So if you have any ideas i'd love to hear about them....

Reluctant_Sir ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

The most predictable course would be to have him find a way to subdue her without help, (master her/break her/show her who is boss) and she falls in love. There are a million ways to do that, all depending on the flavor of your story. You could choose what fits best from romance to BDSM.

That you called her an 'alpha' female means she would have her own battles within the harem for top billing, lots of drama to be had there too.

The road less traveled could be that his rejection of the daughter leads to a feud with the father, even an all-out war with the pack. How fierce and bloody the battle is would depend on the tenor of the story, but she could end up being spoils of war.

joyR ๐Ÿšซ

Following on from Reluctant_Sir's thoughts on the road less travelled...

The hero and his harem vs the pack, not exactly an all out war, but a conflict that can only be resolved by the MCs either mating, or one killing the other.

You have already stated that amongst the harem, at least one of the supernatural girls in his harem has already intervened, so perhaps she tries to help by concocting a 'serum' that will break the mating bond, he attempts to force it upon the girl, but instead does so to her twin sister, who later awakens and in the next conflict feels the mating bond herself, with the hero, who now is faced with two sisters both bonded to him.

As the sisters are twins in looks but opposites in other ways, their rivalry for his attention and place as his chosen alpha mate causes them to wear away at each others rough edges that he dislikes so much, resulting in them both being attractive to him...

Ending perhaps with him having to choose one over the other, a choice that might well finally occur after you type "The End"

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

where the human male hero meets an alpha werewolf girl

Boring fact no ....

The archaic prefix 'were' means 'male' so a 'werewolf girl' would have to be some variant of transgender. Technically a female able to transform into a wolf is a 'wifwolf', the archaic prefix 'wif' living on in the word 'wife'. ;)

AJ

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joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Boring fact no ....

Every once in a while you seem to be the type of guy who enjoys explaining (in detail) the etymology of the word condom, whilst putting one on...

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awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

The word 'condom' derives from the French rugby player Jean Condom, who covered for the rest of the French team being dicks :)

AJ

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joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

The word 'condom' derives from

Actually as is commonly accepted, the word condom actually derives from the word 'condominium', thus a condom is a small part of a larger entity... :)

blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

Me i don't know, thank you reluctant_sir and JoyR for some actual input. I think i want to try something unusual for this adventure though. Because really i've read hundreds of werewolf stories and i don't know about anyone else but they've all starting to read the same way at times.

I'll even go as far as to say i'd even entertain ideas that don't involve the hero and the werewolf girl getting together in a sexual context. I mean maybe she turns into a lovesick puppy, pardon the pun.

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awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@blackjack2145309

thank you reluctant_sir and JoyR for some actual input

Apologies for the diversion.

I have some interest in the basic premise since it seems to be character-driven despite the fantasy setting. If someone were to write it up, it could be a good story.

AJ

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blackjack2145309 ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

Apology accepted.

LupusDei ๐Ÿšซ
Updated:

If you want more depth or just different flavor to your werewolves you have to either dig the origins of the European tradition or look for alternatives outside, like native American benevolent shape-shifters.

European werewolves predate christianity.

Witchers or shamans (for a lack of better word, especially as it must meaningfully differ from the "wise wizard" priests) of the once widespread tradition (spanning from modern European Russia to Germany, to northern Italy) still partially preserved by Baltic so called 'pagans' (we're not pagan by definition of the word; title "God" is never used in plural, but it gets complicated from there) on certain nights turned into wolves to...

...mount raids on Hell itself, to rescue goods, livestock (and possibly human souls?) unlawfully taken there by its inhabitants (whoever they are).

It's a tradition possibly, at least probably, closely related to the practice of berserker warriors, who were spiritual practitioners able to enter controlled state of affect letting them bypass checks and balances normally imposed by 'intellectual' conciousness allowing them to appear significantly faster, stronger and aggressive than any normal adult human (children and animals can do that naturally).

Practice of either might have resulted in slaughtering livestock in inhumane, gruesome ways, and not necessarily livestock belonging to the practitioner...

Modern elite warriors reach comparable results by extensive training and conditioning. Knowing those guys are indeed training to almost literally go to hell and expect to return victorious, it's little surprise The Special Tasks Unit of the National Armed Forces of Latvia feature warrior wearing wolf's hide on its crest.

Random history lesson aside and back to your story, and sexually concerned pack werewolves, how you describe the main 'hero' already commanding a harem, and the she-wolf-girl as alpha, its almost by definition there's no permanent union is possible without breaking one. Respectful alliance is, but her becoming prime in his harem is as unlikely as him becoming prime in hers -- neither is a true alpha role. However, that's what being the designated mate would likely mean.

The whole mate thing, she's just identified a male who would make her offsprings stronger and better warriors. Him being an established alpha male himself isn't surprising, even if somewhat unfortunate.

In real world wolves, females do lead packs. While the hierarchy is determined by force first and merits second, an older, wise, cunning bitch can still command enough authority. Then, woves packs do have much more complex structure than plain hierarchy, even prime meat-bringer can not be always the leader, but as far down as third or fourth tier, lesser than "advocate" (or judge) who terminate minor conflicts without involving the alpha. Wandering independent males are a thing. In some occasions, they don't mind killing small clubs of a newfound mate, just to make their own few months sooner.

Then, in another aside, the whole craze about virginity is, that the first male that plants his seed in a female somehow magically influences all her future offsprings, even if the copulation in question doesn't result in children on itself and the eventual offspring are sired by someone else, they're still somehow, at least partially, are supposed to be children of the First. (Now, think about prime nocturne rights of feudal lords in this light, it suddenly makes sense.)

While this (unscientific) attitude is largely rooted out in humans, it still exists as a superstition in dog breeding communities: a bitch 'tainted' by the non-breed dog is considered impure and unsuitable for future bloodline continuation. By some stretch, in a supernatural infested world, the werewolves might hold similar views.

So, our alpha bitch is looking not just for a mate, but for her First. While she would be happy to have him as lieutenant and harem prime, it is not on itself a requirement. Being permanently involved in his harem is not an option; she have her own pack to lead, expecting to inherit it from her father... perhaps, sooner than he thinks, or so she believes. God knows why, but getting her own First is a big step in that. Maybe daddy have a preferred partner for her she doesn't approve (it might even be himself, but not necessarily). Maybe, she's in race conditions with a brother. Maybe both.

Our hero have her as his captive, and calling her father insert himself in ongoing conflict he knows nothing about. Daddy has every reason to assume hero has taken his daughter already. While unfortunate, it does serve at least a subset of his goals, particularly, in denying the rebellious daughter a chance to take over the pack, or so he thinks. She, however, isn't interested to disprove it either. So, as far the werewolves are concerned, they are mated already, even if nothing had actually happened.

Now how it can go, I think he is eventually helping her to take over her pack from his father, perhaps reluctantly or even unknowingly, and they end up forming alliance of independent forces, but not before him refusing (or even curing, by powers of her existing harem) an offer (or attempt) of being turned and included in her pack.

Perhaps, they do have sex at some point, perhaps in highly ritualistic situation, but no real intimate relationship.

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