Two bi-curious guys trying for a girl just to find out they were actually trying to impress each other.
Two bi-curious guys trying for a girl just to find out they were actually trying to impress each other.
Two bi-curious guys trying for a girl just to find out they were actually trying to impress each other.
An 'accidentally gay' story?
I'm not sure I'd try it on SOL, since it'd likely have a better reception on gay sites. There's a whole subgenre of gay porn relating to either straight/bi experimentation of straights being 'bent' (though I have trouble dealing with why gays would want to bother, as it's akin to reentering the closet just for a one-time fling). For me, I'd rather spend time with people who take pride in who they are, rather than trying to manipulate others.
To be fair, though, I have read a couple of stories about two guys/girls fighting over a girl/guy who then discover they prefer each other (also a few related stories where a new girlfriend encourages a brother a sister to fool around, only to be dumped by both when they discover they can do better without her). In those, I like the 'be true to yourself' twist at the end.
There's no really good label for what I might call quasi-accidental. In the swinging of the seventies and eighties, even an inadvertent touch of a man on another man could trigger hostility and even blows.
One night, however, I got a call from a very old and trusted friend. When he told his live-in girlfriend that he would like to watch her with a woman, she said "Maybe. If you like that, isn't it fair for me to want to see the equivalent? Geese, ganders, and all that?" So, he asked me to a threesome, with the understanding that while he and I would focus on her, we'd also have direct contact. A good time was had by all.
A bit later, at a swinging party, I was sort-of-propositioned by one man, while with a couple of women. The latter encouraged me, and even mild contact between the men drove them into a very pleasant frenzy.
Snowballing with MF and MM is another variant.
OTOH, I have no particular interest in just having sex with a man. Yes, like most men being honest, I had that in places like summer camp when girls were not available.
Two bi-curious guys trying for a girl just to find out they were actually trying to impress each other.
It's a huge genre in paid erotica---Unbroken by Em Petrova is a good example. It's a genre romance, i.e., there are obstacles to true love for all three of them (two guys, one girl), but the writing is strong and the sex scenes---in whichever combination---are hot.
No one is closeting himself, although the guys can't quite bring themselves to acknowledge the attraction, so there's no subterfuge there. In fact, it's a very very traditional Romance genre novel, only with a variation on the gender combos.
Spoiler: It has a happy ending. Several of them. Caveat: You gotta like big-ass pickup trucks, petite women in cutoffs and cowboy boots,* and twang but, hey, those all sound like plusses to me.
In other words, the reception on SOL for this kind of bi stuff may or may not be positive, but in this particular formulation SOL is a little blinkered.
*OK, let me quickly point out before someone else does: You could easily have big-ass women and petite pickup trucks, too.
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petite pickup trucks
There were only two pickups ever produced that could reasonably be considered petite. Neither is in production any more and neither was a true truck.
The El Camino and the VW Rabbit pickup. Both are to the pickup truck what the "Crossover" is to the SUV, downsized pretenders built on car frames rather than truck frames.
The El Camino and the VW Rabbit pickup. Both are to the pickup truck what the "Crossover" is to the SUV, downsized pretenders built on car frames rather than truck frames.
The same could be said about breast surgery (putting big tits on a small girl).
As for bi stories, that's why I'd like to see SOL open an associated gay/bi/trans site with a separate sign on (no default access for SOL members), so many of us would have a place for more experimental works without the 1-bombers punishing us for the next 10 years. Generally, a single bi (i.e MM scene) will tank the score of an otherwise well-crafted story. As useful as scoring is, it rewards majorities and punishes minorities, rather than giving everyone access to the stories they're interested in.
As for bi stories, that's why I'd like to see SOL open an associated gay/bi/trans site with a separate sign on (no default access for SOL members), we many of us would have a place for more experimental works without the 1-bombers punishing us for the next 10 years. Generally, a single bi (i.e MM scene) will tank the score of an otherwise well-crafted story. As useful as scoring is, it rewards majorities and punishes minorities, rather than giving everyone access to the stories they're interested in.
You're probably right, although I've had a few light MM and mm scenes and no one has freaked out, but it's tricky, no question.
There's no accounting for taste, and nothing really to be done for the "Eww!" crowd, but-honestly-anyone who reads a well-done MMF bodice ripper ought to have fun with it. "Ought to," sure. No, you can't make anyone like it, but liking it is not contagious. Too bad.
I sometimes wonder, does the term "circle jerk" bring back any memories for these guys?
All I really remember about one experiment was, "What a minute, we've got two pegs here, we're missing something." (Neither of us was going anywhere near the only available hole, thank you very much.)
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Neither of us was going anywhere near the only available hole, thank you very much.
That's cause you were born before the widespread use of microwaves, when young boys started experimenting with pies and warmed melons. ("Eww!")
I never had an issue with gays or guy on guy sex, but in the various places I grew up, it simply wasn't a popular activity. I've never encountered many people who've engaged in circle jerks, although I've read plenty of encounters from people who did. I suspect it was a regional/age thing.
By the way, because of scoring biases, I refuse to post my gay romance story to SOL. I already have enough career 1-bombers. Any more, and it might start affecting my scores. The frustrating thing, though, is that my 1-bombers are loyal readers, who read each chapter of each story they protest within a couple days of posting. That hardly rates as a "not worth reading" evaluation.
The frustrating thing, though, is that my 1-bombers are loyal readers,
I guess that's one definition of "loyal reader," although "stalker" might also fit.
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There were only two pickups ever produced that could reasonably be considered petite.
You forget the Chevy Luv, the Chevy/GMC 'S' series (S-10/15), and the Dodge mini Ram. Ford had one as well, but I don't remember what it was called. And if you include the El Camino then you should include the Ranchero as well.
There were only two pickups ever produced that could reasonably be considered petite. Neither is in production any more and neither was a true truck.
The El Camino and the VW Rabbit pickup. Both are to the pickup truck what the "Crossover" is to the SUV, downsized pretenders built on car frames rather than truck frames.
Wait, wait! What about the girlie Suzuki "SUV" / pickup?
I was thinking about a story title: "Strong women and cheatin' pickup trucks." May need some work. Maybe the trucks were gay? or lesbian?
My sister-in-law's late partner was an SUV fan. She drove like a maniac.
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Wait, wait! What about the girlie Suzuki "SUV" / pickup?
I have no idea what you are talking about.
The closest thing I can find with a Google search is the Suzuki Jimmy, which stock isn't a pickup at all, it's a convertible SUV, a knockoff of the Jeep Wrangler. which was loosely based on a WWII army jeep. Now, there are aftermarket pickup conversions for Suzuki Jimmy/Jeep Wrangler pickup, but those are custom vehicles not production cars, so I don't count those.
it's a convertible SUV, a knockoff of the Jeep Wrangler
That's the one, and it sure screamed "girlie" to me.
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That's the one, and it sure screamed "girlie" to me.
It screams "girlie" to just about everyone, but stock it's not a pickup by any stretch of the imagination,
it's a convertible SUV, a knockoff of the Jeep Wrangler.
That would be the Suzuki Sidekick
That would be the Suzuki Sidekick
Today yes, but go back and look at the Jimmys from the 1970s.
Go take a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Jimny#LJ10
My sister-in-law's late partner was an SUV fan. She drove like a maniac.
If she drove like a maniac, she shouldn't have been late. (Sorry, but I'm a sucker for pitiful death jokes, part of my 'dark humor'.)
On the flip side, many of the current big SUV owners are actually women, who prefer the vehicles since they allow them to see traffic better (rather than being able to drive off road, which almost no SUVs actually do anymore).
On the flip side, many of the current big SUV owners are actually women, who prefer the vehicles since they allow them to see traffic better (rather than being able to drive off road, which almost no SUVs actually do anymore).
While most SUV owner's don't go off roading, all of the true SUVs (built on pickup truck frames) are still off road capable stock.
The car frame based crossover SUVs (a few of which are little more than re-branded station wagons) are a different story.
If she drove like a maniac, she shouldn't have been late. (Sorry, but I'm a sucker for pitiful death jokes, part of my 'dark humor'.)
On the flip side, many of the current big SUV owners are actually women, who prefer the vehicles since they allow them to see traffic better (rather than being able to drive off road, which almost no SUVs actually do anymore).
She was apparently attempting to prove her assertion that insurance companies no longer distinguished between girl and boy drivers, because ... why? Girls drove has badly as boys?
Fortunately, my insurance company didn't agree with her and rated girls safer than boys, to our advantage when we had two teenage girl drivers in the house.
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Girls drove has badly as boys?
Fortunately, my insurance company didn't agree with her and rated girls safer than boys, to our advantage when we had two teenage girl drivers in the house.
That is the problem with Brexit. In France it is the vehicle which is rated and insured and (probably with exceptions for a few hotrods) anyone can drive on the vehicle insurance. In the UK it is the drivers who are considered as well as the vehicle. French insurance (even for someone with 30+ years clean)is cheaper than UK insurance on the same vehicle.
In France it is the vehicle which is rated and insured and (probably with exceptions for a few hotrods) anyone can drive on the vehicle insurance.
One more reason why Brexit is a bad idea. Perhaps we could send you Mr. Trump to make it all better ...
In the U.S. it also depends on whether the driver is resident in the household. If yes, the driver is rated. If no, i.e., if the driver a visitor or even a non-resident child, the driver is not rated.
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One more reason why Brexit is a bad idea. Perhaps we could send you Mr. Trump to make it all better ...
He's been here and made his mark. No doubt you've read about his dealings with the local council which didn't give him the approvals he had demanded.
Wait, wait! What about the girlie Suzuki "SUV" / pickup?
I believe it was called the BRAT and actually had an option for 2 seats at the front of the bed facing the rear.
I believe it was called the BRAT and actually had an option for 2 seats at the front of the bed facing the rear.
The BRAT was a Subaru, not a Suzuki and it looking it up on line, it looks a bit like an El-Camino knockoff, so it definitely makes a third entry into the petite pickup category. It was developed from a station wagon frame, rather than using a truck frame.
Oh, and the jump seats in the bed weren't an option. All the US sold units had them, they were cheap seats welded in as a ploy to qualify for passenger vehicle tariff which was lower than the light truck tariff.
The BRAT was a Subaru, not a Suzuki
I knew it was an 'S', just couldn't remember which one. :)