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Incest and Polygamy is made legal; society is split.

SaiDiaS 🚫

Context:

This story is set in the same timeline as ours, but the difference is that in this world there was a debate held about whether incest for recreational purposes should be legal or not. As well as a debate about Polygamy, and whether the government has the rigth to put restraints on a person decision to have more than one lover/wife with their partners consent.

After those two debates happened, the US government made the decision to pass a bill legalising incest, and polygamy, and added a change to the age of consent; changing it from 18 to 16(with specified restrictions). However, after the law was passed many "moral" citizens started a protest, which escalated to a riot. This caused the government to pass another bill, creating enclave cities, where citizens who wants to practice incest and polygamy can reside with their family.

Within the enclave, the mayor passed their own law legalising public nudity.

Story:

The story follows a family of a man, his four wives and their four sons(from three of his wives). The oldest son is 19 and the youngest is 16. The relationship within the family is as follows -- the names are there from what I had planned earlier:

Diana( the first wife): is a housewife and a glory-hole participant; mother to the oldest son: is also paramour to her nephew, and her 16-year old step-son

Meera (second wife): Is a high school teacher; mother to twin sons; and girlfriend to her nephew and fuck buddy to two of her students

Neena (third wife): Is also a high school, teaching at the same school as her co-wife Meera; she's her oldest step-son's lover;

Hannah (fourth wife): is her husband assistant; mother to the youngest son; lover to her twin step-sons

The husband takes turns sleeping with each of his wives, but more regularly sleeps with his first wife. The family dynamic is sexually open, with almost everyone being nude to various stages, or having sex out in the open.

I haven't figured out what exact plot to focus on to write this story, initially I intended it to be focusing on the family dynamic but I don't think I'd be able to write the story, seeing as how I'm not that strong of a writer yet. So that's why I'm putting this here. To see if someone else would be interested in writing the story. But if anyone is interested in writing it, let me know. The only things I ask to avoid is gay, trans, crossdressing, scat, watersports, bestiality, zoophilia, furry, and anything of that sort.

John Demille 🚫
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@SaiDiaS

This story is set in the same timeline as ours, but the difference is that in this world there was a debate held about whether incest for recreational purposes should be legal or not.

Not so different anymore:

https://nypost.com/2022/10/08/nyc-judge-rules-in-favor-of-polyamorous-relationships/

As well as a debate about Polygamy, and whether the government has the rigth to put restraints on a person decision to have more than one lover/wife with their partners consent.

One down, two to go.

Polygamy is now legal. Next are incest and Pedophilia.

They're working hard to normalize pedophilia. As of 2022 pedophiles are to be known as MAPs —Minor Attracted Persons—. If you call them pedophiles then you're a bigot.

Incest is in the discussion too.

Hurry up and write the story before you have to tag it as 'True' instead of fiction.

Never underestimate how slippery a slope can be.

Replies:   SaiDiaS
SaiDiaS 🚫

@John Demille

They're working hard to normalize pedophilia. As of 2022 pedophiles are to be known as MAPs —Minor Attracted Persons—. If you call them pedophiles then you're a bigot.

I define pedophilia to attraction to someone below the age of 13, because some states in the US, as well as some countries have their age of consent at 16.

Hurry up and write the story before you have to tag it as 'True' instead of fiction.

I'm not that strong of a writer to write something like this, with different character arcs and plots. That's why I put it here. Also, it will be fiction, because it's not going to be based on any real people.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son 🚫

@SaiDiaS

I define pedophilia to attraction to someone below the age of 13

The proper definition of pedophilia is sexual attraction to prepubescent children.

there are separate terms for attraction to children that are in process and for attraction to postpubescent teens.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/precocious-puberty/symptoms-causes/syc-20351811

Precocious puberty is when a child's body begins changing into that of an adult (puberty) too soon. When puberty begins before age 8 in girls and before age 9 in boys, it is considered precocious puberty.

richardshagrin 🚫

@SaiDiaS

If you have a game about polly, playing it would be polly gamy.

I have heard the statement "polly wants a cracker." Crackers are residents of Georgia and northern Florida. Complicating the statement, poly is a name for parrots. Perhaps crackers want polies. Or parots. Its all a game, for poly gamists.

Replies:   SaiDiaS
SaiDiaS 🚫

@richardshagrin

I'm so confused by what you wrote. I only posted this to see if someone would be interested in writing a story from that idea.

Replies:   StarFleet Carl
StarFleet Carl 🚫

@SaiDiaS

I'm so confused by what you wrote.

That's normal for reading just about everything the Grinning Dick writes.

Sarkasmus 🚫
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@SaiDiaS

Well... I mean, age of consent in most European countries is between 14 and 16. Why? Because Teenagers are horny little shits that WILL have sex, whether we like it or not. And they think it's better to guide them, than to criminalize them. Europeans just view Teenagers differently than the US does.

Look at the age at which Teenagers are allowed to drive: 16 in the US, 18 in Europe.

Age at which you are allowed to drink? 16 in Europe, 21 in the US. The exact opposite.

In Europe, you're basically done with school at 16 and have to decide whether you want to stay in school to pursue higher education, learn a trade, or just work a job. So, at 16, the Europeans already acknowledge that Teenagers are developed enough to make some decisions regarding their OWN lives and health. So, consequently, they're allowed to drink (non-distilled alcohol) and have sex. But the Europeans don't think that 16-year-olds are developed enough to make decisions for OTHER people's lives and health, which is why they are not allowed to pilot a metric ton of steel through the streets and potentially kill people. So, lowering the age of consent wouldn't be that much of a shock.

Next:

The whole incest-debate has, for the past 10 years, essentially developed the same way as the one about homosexual relationships had. At the end of the day, you gotta ask yourself: As long as it's consentual, and all participants are mentally capable of consenting AND fully understanding the consequences of that consent, who's getting hurt? Their offspring? Well, possibly, but going by that logic, you'd also have to prohibit people with genetic disorders from procreating, and THAT was something the Nazis did... so... yeah. There already are US-States that have legalized it anyway.

Alaska allows it for under 18-year-olds (don't ask me why), Rhode Island only has a problem with marriage (and only if they knew about being related), Maryland is fine with it, as long as it's just up the ass (no joke!), and New Jersey is fine with it as long as it's consentual.

So, with these premises explored, I think the the setting of your family is a little convoluted. It would be interesting to read someone's take on what the possible consequences of such changes in the law would entail, but I was already confused trying to imagine the family dynamic itself. One guy with three wifes, that seem to be somewhat related, and gave him three sons... Seems like a great porn-plot, though. Much sex, many pairing options. As long as I wouldn't have to think about it, could be great.

Replies:   Michael Loucks  Keet
Michael Loucks 🚫

@Sarkasmus

Well... I mean, age of consent in most European countries is between 14 and 16. Why? Because Teenagers are horny little shits that WILL have sex, whether we like it or not. And they think it's better to guide them, than to criminalize them. Europeans just view Teenagers differently than the US does

This is the main theme of my series 'A Well-Lived Life'. The MC discovers (as a teenager) European values and adopts them, despite living in the (repressive) US.

Replies:   SaiDiaS
SaiDiaS 🚫

@Michael Loucks

I was thinking one where it has incest, and polygamy, being set in a town where everyone, who lives there, practices polygamy, and incest.

Dominions Son 🚫
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@SaiDiaS

I was thinking one where it has incest, and polygamy, being set in a town where everyone, who lives there, practices polygamy, and incest.

You have to be careful how you set that up. If it's all one male/several females, you either end up with a lot of males that aren't getting any or you need something to throw off the natural gender ratio to heavily favor females.

A significant number of male incels would be a significant source of potential violent conflict.

A society where polygamy is legal if you are wealthy enough to support multiple women, such that it is legal but relatively rare is not that hard to see.

IIRC, the natural gender ratio at birth is around 102F/100M so legal but rare polygamy is sustainable in the real world.

It's harder to put together a realistic working society where everyone is doing the polygamy thing.

Replies:   SaiDiaS
SaiDiaS 🚫

@Dominions Son

As I said in the original post, I'm not a strong writer and I posted this here to see if someone else would be interested.

If it's all one male/several females, you either end up with a lot of males that aren't getting any or you need something to throw off the natural gender ratio to heavily favor females.

I don't care if it's one male with five females or vice versa, the point is just polygamy. And I did think about the incel problem, and depending on how it's written it'll be make the story interesting. Like, how would people from outside react to the town and whatnot.

A society where polygamy is legal if you are wealthy enough to support multiple women, such that it is legal but relatively rare is not that hard to see.

Not sure if this would be problem, because in my intial idea most of the women in the family had jobs, and the husband was well off.

It's harder to put together a realistic working society where everyone is doing the polygamy thing.

That's why I wanted it story and not real life. Cause if its real life, it'll be really complicated.

Michael Loucks 🚫

@SaiDiaS

I was thinking one where it has incest, and polygamy, being set in a town where everyone, who lives there, practices polygamy, and incest.

Well, my MC in 'A Well-Lived Life' is, in effect polygamous, and there is an incest component (one fulfilled and one unfulfilled). But not the entire town. :-)

Replies:   SaiDiaS
SaiDiaS 🚫

@Michael Loucks

I know😅. I want to have the incest(mother-son) component. As well as, include an entire, that practice incest and polygamy.

Keet 🚫

@Sarkasmus

In Europe, you're basically done with school at 16

Partly, multiple countries in Europe have 17 or 18 as the compulsory age limit, for example in Belgium and the Netherlands you have to be 18 before you can quit school. Some also have laws concerning the minimum level you must have reached although that is often to allow earlier quitting school than the age limit would allow.

limnophile75044 🚫

@SaiDiaS

I'm helping a friend with something similar. Would you like me to email you a preview?

Replies:   SaiDiaS
SaiDiaS 🚫

@limnophile75044

Yeah, sure!

krisskrossdgr8 🚫

@SaiDiaS

None of the wives/mothers seem to have sex with their own biological sons, just step-sons and nephews. It's not completely an incest theme if the biological moms and sons don't fuck each other. IMPO, I don't consider sex between step-parents and step-children as incest.

ystokes 🚫

@SaiDiaS

I could never understand how someone's religious liberty is mostly used to deny others the right to marry who they want. What does your ability to worship the way you want allow you to dictate how others live? And why does religious liberty only apply to one religion and not other religions.

Replies:   akarge
akarge 🚫
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@ystokes

Because only the religion is question is "real", of course. Everyone else is just deluded. Or they are probably trying to deluded and confuse you.

ystokes 🚫

@SaiDiaS

I am so thankful to the lady who tried to save me when I was young. The mistake she made was by taking me to different churches who all read out of the same book but came to different conclusions and how the others were wrong.

Limnophile 🚫

@SaiDiaS

It's usually not officially recognized or allowed, but large scale polygamy / polyamory sometimes happens in the real world after major wars.

If a third of the young men die fighting, where do young women find mates?

For the decade after WW2, 12 - 15 percent of births in the USSR were to a single mom and a man who was married to someone else.

Officially that never happened, because loyal communists wouldn't do decadent Western things like that.

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