Forum: Lost Stories

Southern Coastal States Form Separate Nation

PotomacBob 🚫

I have only dim memory of this story. Four 20th century states - South Carolina, Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi break away and form a separate nation. It is possible Louisiana was also one of the states, but I'm pretty sure Florida was not. They are popularly called some name that was made up of the initial letters of the breakaway states - but I don't recall exactly which order the states were in to form the name. Could have been, maybe, GAMS states or SMAG states, though neither of those rings a bell. This was likely a paperback book, likely decades ago. I do not recall what the issue(s) was that caused them to split. I think I remember that the break-off was by consent with the rest of the U.S., but that may be wrong. I also think I recall that the Gadsden Purchase played a role somehow - but I may be confusing that with yet another story.
I know it's not much to go on, but the people on SOL have, again and again, answered about stories with very few clues - and even some clues that turned out to be wrong.
Thanks, in advance, for your help.

Replies: bk69

bk69 🚫

@PotomacBob

Could've been one of L.E.Modesitt's books. He had the US fragment into a bunch of different entities.

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Mushroom 🚫

@bk69

Could've been one of L.E.Modesitt's books. He had the US fragment into a bunch of different entities.

Uhhhh, are you maybe thinking of Harry Turtledove?

I have read almost all of Modesitt's work. They are predominantly set in the far future, a fantasy world, or the distant past.

Could also maybe be S.M. Stirling, he has written some like that. It has been years since I read his Draka series, but I think towards the end the US broke up before the final war.

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bk69 🚫

@Mushroom

Most are far in the future. But I think the 'Colombia' novels were a alternate history. It's been a long time, but I think that's what I was thinking primarily of. (There were any number beyond that where the stories were set centuries later on planets settled by the various factions from those novels.)

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Mushroom 🚫

@bk69

Most are far in the future. But I think the 'Colombia' novels were a alternate history. It's been a long time, but I think that's what I was thinking primarily of. (There were any number beyond that where the stories were set centuries later on planets settled by the various factions from those novels.)

Columbia? I know of a series by Turtledove called Atlantean, but nothing like that from Modesitt.

Recluce is his most famous, which seems like far (or magical) past, but is actually far-far-far future. And appears to tie in with his Ecolitan and Parafaith series. Those last 2 had factions, but it was not geographically based that I can remember.

Imager and Spellsong are more magical fantasy. And while I have not yet read the Corean series, it appears to be close to Recluce. I am just curious, as a huge fan of his I am scratching my head trying to figure out what series I had missed.

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bk69 🚫

@Mushroom

Ghosts of Colombia? There was two books, just like his Timegod books. I think there was a omnibus edition.
It's been a while, I remember it had all NA split up into various factions including Colombia and Deseret(they keep appearing in other books, I think the followers of the prophet in Ecolitan?) and a few others. The provable existence of ghosts/spirits led to a very different history of westward expansion, as it made the local tribes far stronger.

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Mushroom 🚫

@bk69

Ghosts of Colombia? There was two books, just like his Timegod books. I think there was a omnibus edition.

The Ghost series. One of his series I tried, but could not get into. Ghosts are real, there was never a US. I am familiar, Columbia was an omnibus edition of books 1 and 2 combined. There is a third book, Ghost of the White Nights.

I had to look at another site to see the omnibus book.

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samuelmichaels 🚫

@Mushroom

The Ghost series. One of his series I tried, but could not get into. Ghosts are real, there was never a US. I am familiar, Columbia was an omnibus edition of books 1 and 2 combined. There is a third book, Ghost of the White Nights.

I liked them -- maybe not his greatest, but not bad.

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ian_macf 🚫

@samuelmichaels

I liked them too

Ian

mimauk 🚫

If you check in -" Frank's Post-Apoc World — A Universe from the Mind of Frank Speaks" I think some of the stories by "Radio Guy" have some of the survivors gathering together in different 'Countries' formed from some states.
https://storiesonline.net/universe/543/franks-post-apoc-world

awnlee jawking 🚫

I'm sure it's not what you are looking for but the Art Deco universe of Stultus had a partitioned United States.

AJ

duckunge 🚫

Probably not what you are looking for but the hawk and the chipmunk has something along those lines they do eventually split the southern states off.

https://storiesonline.net/s/45443/the-hawk-and-the-chipmunk

weed 🚫

Sounds like the "Out of the ashes series" by William w Johnston's. Then real away southern states were called the Tri-States.

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