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pokeris4fun ๐Ÿšซ
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I need some help on a couple of do over stories

In the first story, the MC buys some real estate (railway yards or something) beating out a real estate mogul.

In the second story, the MC got beat up by members of a sports team (lacrosse or football) in the previous timeline but in the second timeline, he beats them up.

Edit: Found the first story - Life Diverted (Part 1: Childhood) by Englishman

Replies:   Keet  Dinsdale  awnlee jawking
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@pokeris4fun

In the second story, the MC got beat up by members of a sports team (lacrosse or football) in the previous timeline but in the second timeline, he beats them up.

That's pretty generic which makes it almost impossible to find the story. Any more details? Anything to use as a keyword for a search.

Replies:   pokeris4fun
pokeris4fun ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

No. I can't remember anything else about the story. I think he got tripped or pushed when he was going through a doorway and was beat up by jocks. But in the second timeline he remembers it and fights back

Replies:   Zellus
Zellus ๐Ÿšซ

@pokeris4fun

Is it the one where they was hidden beside the door with a baseball bat, and the first time he was pushed inside the room, but this time he pushes the other, and the attackers hit their friend in the head?

Replies:   pokeris4fun
pokeris4fun ๐Ÿšซ

@Zellus

Yup! The one and the same.
It was a very interesting storyline. But sadly the author has stopped writing its sequel. It was supposed to be a trilogy!

Dinsdale ๐Ÿšซ
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@pokeris4fun

That second request reminds me of a scene from https://storiesonline.net/s/68384/a-fresh-start by https://storiesonline.net/a/rlfj (Chapter 12) except things did not happen exactly like that in the story.
Chapter 1 had him beating up some kids who had beaten him up in his first life, the incident with the lacrosse players in chapter 12 was - I think - new territory for him.

Replies:   pokeris4fun
pokeris4fun ๐Ÿšซ

@Dinsdale

Yeah! That is a similar scenario. But that is not what I am looking for. I've read 'a fresh start' quite a few times and that is the first story I checked.
I'm sure that the story is either here or in lit but I'm unable to find it.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@pokeris4fun

In the second story, the MC got beat up by members of a sports team (lacrosse or football) in the previous timeline but in the second timeline, he beats them up.

I vaguely recall recently reading a story in which a 12yo deliberately challenges and takes out a jerk footballer using martial arts tactics from his previous life in order to forestall the bullying his previous self suffered at the hands of the football team. Needless to say, despite searching through my recently read do-overs, I can't identify it. If that rings a bell, perhaps someone else can help.

AJ

Replies:   pokeris4fun
pokeris4fun ๐Ÿšซ
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@awnlee jawking

I don't recall reading such a story but it sounds interesting. Hopefully someone can find it!

I did find the story I was searching - Getting it wrong by G Younger. But the details are a bit different from my memory. There is no lacrosse or football team but a bunch of bullies and the MC is hit on his head with a baseball bat the first time and the second time he manages to push the main bully and he gets hit.

However the MC and bully has a run in at a football game. And also the MC does put down the bully. Hence the mix up

Zellus ๐Ÿšซ
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Then it's Getting It Wrong by G Younger. I contacted the author (some years ago) about the sequel, and was told that the story wasn't received well enough for him to write the sequel.

Story: https://storiesonline.net/s/13469/getting-it-wrong

Author: https://storiesonline.net/a/G_Younger

Replies:   pokeris4fun
pokeris4fun ๐Ÿšซ
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@Zellus

Yup! I had mentioned it in my post just above your first post. I didn't link it because I'm a klutz. Thanks for posting the link :)
I just hope that the author has a change of heart and decides to complete it.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@pokeris4fun

I just hope that the author has a change of heart and decides to complete it.

Don't hold your breath.

The author has already stated there won't be a sequel

contacted the author (some years ago) about the sequel, and was told that the story wasn't received well enough for him to write the sequel.

If readers want authors to post more stories or sequels then voting and commenting is the way to go. It won't guarantee results, but the lack of voting is often a major reason why authors turn their attention elsewhere.

When you have finished the next few stories you read here, click on the 'more info' link at the bottom of the page and compare the number of downloads to the number of votes... You'll be lucky if the votes reach 5% of the downloads.

Given how easy Lazeez has made voting it is sad that so few readers actually bother. I do wonder how many of those same readers bitch about the stories taking so long to post of sequels never appearing...

Of course the other extreme is also possible. If every reader also voted and the score was good, the author might just pull their stories and go publish them, but that shouldn't deter voting.

Replies:   pokeris4fun  solitude
pokeris4fun ๐Ÿšซ
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@joyR

G Younger had posted this on his blog

For fans of Getting it Wrong I have bad news. As of now I doubt there will be the planned two additional books. The muse has left me on those two follow up books.

Personally, I vote for every story I finish reading but I generally refrain from commenting on it.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@pokeris4fun

Personally, I vote for every story I finish reading but I generally refrain from commenting on it.

Great...!!

Note that my response to your post was not actually aimed at you personally.

Replies:   pokeris4fun
pokeris4fun ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

Haha! Noted! I understood that you meant it in general. Or else I would not have responded to it :)

solitude ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

When you have finished the next few stories you read here, click on the 'more info' link at the bottom of the page and compare the number of downloads to the number of votes... You'll be lucky if the votes reach 5% of the downloads

Number of downloads is not the number of readers. For an ongoing serialised story, divide the download count by the number of chapters to get a rough estimate of the number of readers. For a completed serial it gets more complicated, as many don't start a story until they are sure it will be finished - and their contribution to the download count depends on how many days they take to read it. I think there's enough info in the site database to allow a readership figure for a story to be produced, but it ain't available to us.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@solitude

Number of downloads is not the number of readers.

Who said it was...??

Replies:   solitude
solitude ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

Number of downloads is not the number of readers.

Who said it was...??

You were dividing vote count by download count, apparently to estimate the percentage of readers who vote. If that was not your intent, I apologise for my faulty assumption - but that would leave me uncertain as to the point of the calculation, when serialised stories are involved.

Replies:   joyR
joyR ๐Ÿšซ

@solitude

You were dividing vote count by download count

Yes.

apparently to estimate the percentage of readers who vote.

No

If we presume that each download represents a story (or chapter) being accessed, then contrast that with the number of votes, it provides a rough and ready idea of how few votes are cast.

The number of readers is immaterial, each time a story or chapter is downloaded provides an opportunity to vote. Yes, there are other ways to vote, but the whole point of my comment was to illustrate a point with a simple suggestion, not to calculate pi to the nth decimal.

If that was not your intent, I apologise for my faulty assumption

Apology accepted.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

The number of readers is immaterial, each time a story or chapter is downloaded provides an opportunity to vote.

A reader can only gets one vote per story, not one vote per chapter. I agree with @solitude, you should divide the total download count by the number of chapters.

AJ

Replies:   Keet  Ernest Bywater
Keet ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

A reader can only gets one vote per story, not one vote per chapter. I agree with @solitude, you should divide the total download count by the number of chapters.

That's too simple but without other considerations it comes closest. To be a little more accurate you would need take the downloads until the story is finished and divide that number by the number of chapters and assume all downloads after as 'total downloads'. i.e. all chapters in one download. This takes into consideration all those readers that wait for a story to complete and then download the complete story (like I do with most stories). Still not 100% correct because there still will be readers that read by chapter over multiple days and I think the same chapter read over multiple days counts multiple times.
One other reason for a low vote count compared to number of downloads is that those who download the complete story often read off-line and thus are not on the site to be able to vote. I think I'm one of the very few who reads off-line and then take the effort to go back to the site to vote. I still have a huge back-log to vote on because I haven't gotten to actually reading all the stories I have downloaded.
For authors it would be nice to have 2 download counts: one for the story and one as the current count.
TL;DR: There's no meaningful relationship between the number of downloads and the number of votes.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Keet

That's too simple but without other considerations it comes closest.

Agreed.

AJ

Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

you should divide the total download count by the number of chapters.

That will be an extremely false end figure. The download count only registers a count of 1 each time a person accesses the story on the same day. So if they only read 1 chapter per day of a 20 chapter story that gives a download count of 20, but if they read all 20 chapters on the same day it gives a download count of 1.

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

That will be an extremely false end figure.

It's not perfect but 'extremely' is too strong. It's far more accurate than comparing the total number of votes to the total number of downloads.

AJ

Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

each time a story or chapter is downloaded provides an opportunity to vote

Actually, this is not strictly true. With a multi chapter story, you only get the opportunity to vote on the last posted chapter. So if you have an on-going story with 10 posted chapters and someone reads it through from the beginning, that's 10 downloads, but only 1 opportunity to vote.

Replies:   helmut_meukel
helmut_meukel ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

With a multi chapter story, you only get the opportunity to vote on the last posted chapter. So if you have an on-going story with 10 posted chapters and someone reads it through from the beginning, that's 10 downloads, but only 1 opportunity to vote.

If then the story continues with more chapters posted, the reader will be able to vote after each new chapter, but his new vote will only replace his previous vote! It's one vote per story regardless of the state of the story (ongoing/finished).

HM.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@helmut_meukel

If then the story continues with more chapters posted, the reader will be able to vote after each new chapter, but his new vote will only replace his previous vote! It's one vote per story regardless of the state of the story (ongoing/finished).

Only one vote is kept by the system, but a reader who has voted before can change their vote.

karactr ๐Ÿšซ

I asked G. Younger about it once and he said he had no idea where to take it. Perhaps people could give him ideas, since I LOVED that story.

I would have to reread it myself to suggest follow ups.

kuhpa01 ๐Ÿšซ

So many times I have read comments from readers who cry about people (like me) who vote high ratings for stories. They say something about nobody is good enough for ten ratings.

Golly gee folks, I don't think this is the Pulitzer Prize committee here reading erotic stories. The authors are amateurs, not pros, writing primarily for their own amusement. Let us encourage good writing where possible.

Replies:   Franco
Franco ๐Ÿšซ

@kuhpa01

I agree, plus it helps encourage them to keep writing.

joyR ๐Ÿšซ

When you guys have finished... Does anyone dispute that too few readers vote.?

Replies:   rustyken  awnlee jawking
rustyken ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

Does anyone dispute that too few readers vote.

I don't cause, sometimes I forget to before leaving the page. In other cases I am just not inclined to express an opinion.

Cheers

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@joyR

As an author, albeit on furlough, I'd love to see more readers vote on stories. As a reader, I think I can understand the apparent apathy.

AJ

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