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guyver2010 ๐Ÿšซ

It was published so she had to take it down from all free sites.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B7PP2AU/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@guyver2010

It was published so she had to take it down from all free sites.

Actually, she did not have to take it down, she could have left it up and let Amazon take an even bigger share of the price, or publish with anyone except Amazon.

Wheezer ๐Ÿšซ

Thanks, guys. I wanted to read it again, but not bad enough to pay $5 for the privilege.

Best Empire Builder ๐Ÿšซ

@Wheezer

It looks like it on sale right now.

jimh67 ๐Ÿšซ

She priced her book too high for an independent author, as shown by the book's ranking of 342,460 in paid books.

Replies:   Wheezer
Wheezer ๐Ÿšซ

@jimh67

She priced her book too high for an independent author, as shown by the book's ranking of 342,460 in paid books.

Yeah, $2.99 is my personal upper limit for Indie authors - and even then, they need a lot of positive reviews - and I've still been burned. Between the free books and $0.99 books, there's more than enough available for me. Often the free book is #1 in a series, and is good enough that I eventually buy the rest of the series. Besides, I've already read that GMW story when it was on SOL. It's good, but definitely not $5.00 good. Not even $2.99 good.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Wheezer

Yeah, $2.99 is my personal upper limit for Indie authors - and even then, they need a lot of positive reviews - and I've still been burned.

For me story length matters as well.

I would be reluctant to pay more than $0.99 for a short story even from an established author.

Even from a relatively unknown indie author, $2.99 is in my opinion reasonable for a novel length story.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Even from a relatively unknown indie author, $2.99 is in my opinion reasonable for a novel length story.

Depends on where it's being bought. If I sold for $2.99 via Amazon get more of it than I do, and I get $1.15 out of it.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

Depends on where it's being bought. If I sold for $2.99 via Amazon get more of it than I do, and I get $1.15 out of it.

Your complaining to the wrong person.

1. I never said $2.99 was an upper limit for a novel length e-book.

2. You would be getting a hell of a lot less than $1.15 per copy out of $2.99 retail price if you published through a traditional publisher.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

2. You would be getting a hell of a lot less than $1.15 per copy out of $2.99 retail price if you published through a traditional publisher.

I'd also be selling a hell of a lot more, too. I wasn't saying the price was good or bad, I was just pointing out a reason you need to consider the source you're buying from. Purchase direct from the author gives them a bigger cut than if they go through Amazon etc.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

Purchase direct from the author gives them a bigger cut than if they go through Amazon etc.

Is far more likely that an independent web site will try to take my money and stiff me. With Amazon, I know I will get what I paid for.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

Is far more likely that an independent web site will try to take my money and stiff me. With Amazon, I know I will get what I paid for.

so it comes down to who is more likely to be ripped off - the buyer or the seller! Mind you Amazon is the only company I know of who've sold e-books then stolen them back and only offered the buying credit in their store instead of an actual refund, and nothing for the inconvenience.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ
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@Ernest Bywater

so it comes down to who is more likely to be ripped off - the buyer or the seller!

As a buyer, I am most concerned with me being ripped off. I don't think that's unreasonable.

Amazon is the only company I know of who've sold e-books then stolen them back and only offered the buying credit in their store instead of an actual refund

As I recall, it was the publisher that was responsible for the claw back not Amazon.

Supposedly it was a back catalog item that the publisher had made a deal with Amazon to do a print on demand publication.

Since the publisher gave Amazon an electronic version they made it available for the Kindle as well.

After the e-book had been available for months, the publisher came back and threatened to sue Amazon claiming that they had never authorized the e-book version.

Amazon offered to pay the publisher extra for the e-books, but the publisher refused, insisting that Amazon re-possess all outstanding copies.

I'm not going to defend Amazon's refund policy.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

As I recall, it was the publisher that was responsible for the claw back not Amazon.

The two cases I'm thinking of the claw back was by Amazon themselves, they didn't check out the poster and when they got the DMCA notice about the copyright on the two stories Amazon didn't pay the person the royalties (a reasonable action), sucked the files back off the people's Kindles (despite them buying the stories in good faith and the copyright owner saying he only wanted to stop future sales), then only offered store credit instead of a refund to the credit card that was charge with the original purchases (they should have refund exactly as they were paid).

I wasn't aware of the case you're referring to.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@Ernest Bywater

I wasn't aware of the case you're referring to.

The incident I as thinking of was widely reported by US news agencies at the time. It happened only a year or two after the first gen Kindle was originally released. I don't think their direct publishing program for independent authors even existed yet at the time.

I've never even heard about any incidents with authors publishing direct through Amazon.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

I've never even heard about any incidents with authors publishing direct through Amazon.

In both the cases I heard about the person posted a well known book by a well known, but deceased, author. In one case the publishing house still had a valid copyright, in the other it was the authors heirs who had the copyright. Both made International news because sales had been made world wide.

Zellus ๐Ÿšซ

https://www.plagiarismtoday.com/2016/06/16/amazon-serious-copyright-problem/

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