Are "hot pants" and "short shorts" the same thing? Has that sort of attire been known by other names as well?
Are "hot pants" and "short shorts" the same thing? Has that sort of attire been known by other names as well?
My first encounter with the term short shorts was adds for Nair.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve04-BcEP94
Reading the Wickipedia article on hot pants, I would say today hot pants and short shorts are equivalent, but hot pants started out as a sub-set of short shorts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotpants
Hotpants or hot pants describe extremely short shorts. The term was first used by Women's Wear Daily in 1970 to describe shorts made in luxury fabrics such as velvet and satin for fashionable wear, rather than their more practical equivalents that had been worn for sports or leisure since the 1930s. The term has since become a generic term for any pair of extremely short shorts.
by other names
Daisy Dukes ... because Catherine Bach wore cut off jean shorts on 'The Dukes of Hazard.'
Daisy Dukes
I've not heard that used to refer to anything other than cut off jean shorts, so how would that be an alternate general term for hot pants?
jean shorts
Jeans were originally a long-legged hard-wearing type of work gear. So Muricans who use 'jean shorts' instead of eg 'denim shorts' are effectively describing the garment as both long-legged and short-legged.
AJ
So Muricans who use 'jean shorts' instead of eg 'denim shorts' are effectively describing the garment as both long-legged and short-legged.
Nope. There is a difference between denim shorts manufactured as shorts and taking a pair of denim jeans and cutting them down to shorts.
There is a reason Carl said "cut off jean shorts".
There is a reason Carl said "cut off jean shorts".
There were two reasons, both of which tended to reach all the way to the ground. :)
There is a reason Carl said "cut off jean shorts".
So if you cut of even more from jean shorts you get hot pants?
Most of the SOL usage of 'jean shorts' isn't qualified by 'cut off'. And jeans are a garment type, which can be made from several types of material. Denim was the original and used to be the most common but in UK fashion chains it's now a minority. 'Jean shorts' does not specify denim so if you mean denim, you should say it.
AJ
Most of the SOL usage of 'jean shorts' isn't qualified by 'cut off'.
Which is irrelevant to both Starfleet Carl's comment and mine.
Also known as Stubbies in New Zealand & Australia. Also South Africa IIRC. Worn by straight men back in the 70s & 80s.
Hot pants and short shorts were worn by fun girls.
Watch these:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=czATUeLpNgQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FphKlnyzROM
Now imagine Ernest wearing them.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d0/77/64/d07764369485a490965f87c714835f9d.jpg
That is what the south considers hotpants.