Forum: Author Hangout

I don't have Word, but I highly doubt that MS will be too late to the 64bit party with their office365.

I have the MS Office products. All of them have a "yes" under the 64 bit column. Including the Microsoft AutoUpdater which updates them.

So does Calibre.

As does my Brother printer/copier/fax, photo viewer, HTML editor (CotEdit), and jigsaw puzzle app.

In fact, it's easier to go down the list looking for "no." My "no"s were:

ControlCenter
InkServer
LOGIONServer
NETServer
quicklook 32
Remotesetup
USBserver

I have no idea what those are. I wonder if the ControlCenter has something to do with my Brother printer, but not sure since the Brother applications had a "yes." InkServer sounds like it could be a printer app as well.

So, Crumbly, you shouldn't have anything to worry about.

Yeah, I've been observing the various apps with 64, now renamed "Go64". The problem is, while most programs are 64 bit, many like Word, have various components which aren't, and so far, no one's sure whether those apps will fly or not come ... yesterday.

While Pages is a (cough, cough) fine Word Processor, is doesn't support Styles the way the other WPs do, which affects publishing to other sources. Guess I can switch to LibreOffice. So far, Word for Mac has a nasty habit of randomly deleting dozens of user defined bookmarks, while completely abandoning graphic title support (it no longer builds linkable TOCs from those elements), and it's not looking like they'll ever support it, as it's NOT a widely used feature (I'm the only writer I know who uses them).

Switch, the list of non-compliant 64-bit apps is fairly extensive.

Switch, the list of non-compliant 64-bit apps is fairly extensive.

My list?

I think a lot of them have to do with my Brother printer/fax/copier. I checked the Brother site and it seems there are downloads for Catalina, but I'll wait until I update to Catalina before downloading them.

It seems the printer will work without downloading the 64-bit software. The software is used to do stuff from the computer (e.g., ControlCenter).

All of the Apple apps are up-to-date, and so is Office365. I'm using them (along with Scrivener) on the beta of Catalina with no issues. In fact, the only issues I've run into are games which are likely never to be updated.

Again, that's only the main application, however the Officer365 apps rely on various components which aren't 64-bit (according to most online comments). When you eventually switch over to Catalina, it may or may not actually work. Thus it's best to wait and check the comments to see whether the app actually works when Catalina is release.

That's why Go64 is so handy (it's also a free download), it flags which apps are fully compliant, which are only partially compliant, as well as providing links to both the Apple updates and the creator's update site, so you can check for later updates not yet accepted by Apple.

Again, that's only the main application, however the Officer365 apps rely on various components which aren't 64-bit (according to most online comments). When you eventually switch over to Catalina, it may or may not actually work. Thus it's best to wait and check the comments to see whether the app actually works when Catalina is release.

Didja read what I wrote and you quoted?

I'm using them on the beta of Catalina.

That post was made from Catalina (as is this on). They work. All of them. I use them on a daily basis. Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Pages, Numbers, Keynote. Plus all my other apps, including Discord, Scrivener, Firefox, etc.

There's no 'eventually' - I'm there already and they work.

There's no 'eventually' - I'm there already and they work.

Thanks. That takes a weight off my shoulders. I called Apple and they said Catalina will be released in October. So it will be soon.

My only problem seems to be with my Brother printer/fax/copier. I called Brother and am not sure I understood the answer (if there was an answer). They said the printer will work, but some of the software, like ControlCenter which manages the printer operation from the computer, is not 64-bit. But they have software called iPrint&Scan that is similar. At least that's what I think she said. Also, when I went to the Brother site it looks like I can download 64-bit versions of stuff, but I didn't since I don't know if they'd work on Mohave (32-bit iOS).

But Word and Excel were my main concerns. I can't do without them.

Thanks again.

Your basic printer functions will likely still work, as will anything that is supported in the driver Apple provides. My HP OfficeJet Pro 8710 works perfectly with Catalina, but uses the built-in software (the HP Software was 32-bit).

I didn't bother to check to see if HP had updated the drivers as it worked perfectly as a printer and scanner'out of the box' with the Apple-provided drivers.

I didn't bother to check to see if HP had updated the drivers as it worked perfectly as a printer and scanner'out of the box' with the Apple-provided drivers.

HP is very good at maintaining the drivers, so that shouldn't be a problem. (I keep updating my fancy-assed mouse and other drivers, and they're always updated shortly after any significant Mac upgrades.

Didja read what I wrote and you quoted?

I'm using them on the beta of Catalina.

Sorry, musta been asleep. In that case, it looks like those secondary non-complaint aggregates do not affect the main apps ability to run under the new system. That's a HUGE weight off my back, cause as I've expressed before, for some unknown reason, WORD for Mac 2019 keeps erasing my user defined bookmarks (which I use quite extensively) as it continually dump more garbage system bookmarks like history events and change logs). However, I may a workaround for that too.

I have a MacBook Pro, the beta of Catalina - 10.15, and Word 16.16.14 and have no issues.

I'm currently running Word 16.29.1, so that's another relief, though since I have both a 2018 Mac mini and an older 2015 MacBook Pro (soon to be upgraded, which depends on whether the 2019 prices drop after the release of the latest update in Nov) I usually upgrade one one, just to ensure that everything works before updating both.

I'm also running an ancient version of Word 14.0.0 (Word for Mac 2011), since the 2019 version is SO buggy, so that'll delay my updating my desktop even longer. After all, there's no sense trashing a working version of Word for one that continually deletes the internal links. :(

On the other hand, there are also reports of 'issues' with Catalina, and more specifically, with the porting of iPhone/iPad apps to Mac.

The API/Tookkit is SO underdeveloped at this point, no serious developer should bother unless they have a lot of patience and a lot of time on their hands. This might be ready in two years. Maybe.

Now that Catalina is out,

I upgraded to Catalina.

The only known problem I have is with my multi-functioning (print/scan/copy) Brother printer. Not the printer, per se. It prints. But there's software (ControlCenter) that is 32-bit that is used to scan a document. Instead of updating it to 64-bit, Brother created new software called iPrint&Scan. I got it from the Apple store and installed it — BUT my old printer is not supported. Brother told me Apple has something called Apple Image Capture that will allow me to scan, but I haven't looked into it.

I'm finding Catalina much faster than Mohave.

and turn on Silence Unknown Callers

I did that in the beta and suddenly I get no calls on my pocket computer that everyone calls a 'phone' but which is probably the least used app on the computer!

(E.g. call my kids? No answer. Text ten seconds later? Immediate response. Gave up on the 'phone' part years ago!)

When I get a robocall, I press the "i" next to the phone number and block that number. But yesterday I got calls from someone late at night from "No Caller ID". I couldn't block him and he kept calling back. So I muted my iPhone and went to sleep. This morning he appeared in my Recents again.

I've been using NoMoRobo for years, and it maintains a list of national suspect numbers (or blocks of numbers, as many call centers rely on, switching from one to another). Using that software, I almost never get any more bogus calls, although my home (cable) phone is constantly inundated with them.