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Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

Well hello there -- after 15 years away from SOL, tenyari (author of one of the best NIS stories out there) is back with three stories of naked girls being naked.

Now to go read them...

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tenyari ๐Ÿšซ
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@Quasirandom

Oh hey.

I was around in the forums last year while I was working on these. It's supposed to be 4 stories but the fourth is one I started struggling with causing me to not get them out back then. I finally decided to just put out the ones I have for now as they're episodic and can be read as standalone.

The 'First Contact' one is less erotic unless the nudity itself is enough to grab you. It's mostly 'back story and context' though there is a sex scene of sorts in there.

When / if it makes it out, story 4 is probably going to be a LOT more erotic and sex filled than the current ones, but doesn't "move the timeline" in any notable way. I guess it's the "beach episode" for people who get that reference.

I set the whole thing where I did for my reasons. Too many 'aliens among us' type stories end up in places like New York, LA, etc - so I went elsewhere, then put in story lore to make it work.

Also wanted some 'naked girl' stories that were more happy, silly, and uplifting. What I wrote all those years ago was kind of a harsh tale.

My characters are also decidedly older now.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@tenyari

I am all for more happy, silly, and uplifting stories with naked girls. Or happy, silly, and uplifting stories in general. But naked girls are a definite plus.

tenyari ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

My characters are also decidedly older now.

That note from myself. Just updating my profile and made a note about how I long ago wrote my Alandra story...

Which ties to this.

A major reason my 'Naked Alien Girl' series now exists was to make a 'replacement' for the 'in school' universe that the Alandra story was in as I find the idea of characters that are too young to be extremely repugnant.

Alandra was 'nearly adult' - moments away from her birthday had things not ended on a violent note. And I had followup stories for some of the cast and new characters in college being mentally planned. The community of the universe that story was in kept trending more and more in the other direction. The original 'Karen' story wasn't really intended to 'become a thing' so it's writer left no notes on what to do with it, so people went in diverging directions.

I got so angry over the authors that kept shifting the age down that I took a side aspect of the Alandra story and magnified it out to having a violent moment where a major cast character was killed and my heroine has one of her eyes shot out then ends up being blamed and imprisoned (a careful reader of the epilogue can note that a decade later, it's the other eye that she's missing - that was on purpose for something I had planned at the time). Over time I realized it was my anger at the then writer community that made me write that scene the way I did.

So 'Naked Aliens' are decidedly adult, and the lighthearted tone is ingrained, and I put together 'canon' notes ahead of time - to head these issues off. Also because I've since read a few other shared universes and some of the more successful ones have good writer's guidelines / canon rules so that future writers can easily jump in without having to sit down and talk with someone ahead of time. :)

I know I'm bumping a thread that was about me, a week on... but this is just on my mind right now as I updated some things across a couple different places that got me thinking of my old stories and my motives in my new ones.

Replies:   Quasirandom
Quasirandom ๐Ÿšซ

@tenyari

Heh. Cool.

I love how most of the better NiS writers all wrestle with different problematic aspects of the universe.

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JoeBobMack ๐Ÿšซ
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@Quasirandom

I love how most of the better NiS writers all wrestle with different problematic aspects of the universe.

I feel the same about many of the Swarm stories. The seed for that universe seems almost designed to bring out the worst in people, and authors clearly imagined this all going horribly wrong in some instances. Yet, the best stories, time and again, have individuals and groups holding themselves to a higher standard personally and as a community, even striving to win back basic human dignity for all.

Interesting that the two most popular universes both handed authors a very underdeveloped and also very trouble seed idea.

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tenyari ๐Ÿšซ

@JoeBobMack

Swarm did seem to be an extremely negative / violent seed. The idea that everyone is basically going to be a sex slave if I recall right.

I take on the same issue of needing population stability in my setting but while I sometimes put in unpleasant undertones I try to keep it light or at least end it light. My Aliens need to repopulate and are also concerned about 'competition' with Humans if the two species can't mix.

I use that as a backdrop for some stories - but never for a rape / slave angle. I'll be delving into it a lot in my current inwork as that takes place a year further in from the story where Angelita and Silverio start dating. A year on and they're facing more pressure to split up since they can't interbreed (the epilogue of the 'how I met' story notes that this gets resolved happily in the end)... and I have some other characters noting how the Alien's AI tricks them into hookups.

Swarm has a different tone. But it WAS a major inspiration for me in an indirect way. Swarm has a very long set of guidelines for what is canon in the setting. For me, that inspired this:

https://tenyari.wordpress.com/shared-world-writers-guidelines-naked-alien-series/

Putting together the same kind of document. Even if no one ever decides to write in the setting other than me, that's already helping me as I work on the 5th story in it, and caused me to put in certain things in the 4th one that I wouldn't have thought to touch otherwise.

NiS... had it's canon devloped AFTER the fact, by people going over the Karen story. Every story after that had no authority to call itself canon - and that's where the conflict in that community arose. The Original Karen was a near adult, but the story is also more violent than almost any story after it - Karen gets raped twice in that story, though the author never says it that way. One by a group of boys when she's out walking around the suburbs - she enters their house and they go at it. Again in a class, another student is told to rape her - something that the entire class has happen to all the girls. Almost every writer after acted as if those scenes didn't actually occur the way they were written. But a quite a few authors talked about it in writer's groups. With many using it to justify other unpleasant things they put in.

There's a lot more problems inherent in using a closed story to launch a shared universe. Lacking canon, things can go off the rails very easily.

Swarm is not a setting I like, as it has such unpleasant tones to it. Plus having been watching a lot of hard science studies in research for my own story - I've come to the conclusion that Alien Invasion stories don't make sense. I touch on this in my stories now - any species capable of crossing the stars can automatically win by that very fact - before you even know they were there. The only realistic outcome is peacecul contact because in any hostile contact you will never see them coming. You could destroy Jupiter with a grain of sand if you had the ability to move at as much as 10% the speed of light. And it's better to do so, as it's easier to build new planets and habitats from raw materials than to terraform an existing one.

Space conflict is so deadly, it becomes pointless. And the first civilization to do it, will be visible as having done for throughout the galaxy, prompting everyone else to just spend grains of sand their way at insane speeds...

There's also the note that everyone out there with the ability to travel space already knows where everyone else is... We've been broadcasting our presence since the time of the dinosaurs by changes in our atmosphere that result from life. There is no hiding, and it's too late. The fact that we still exist means nothing within 65-million light years or more is hostile, or rather hostile enough to care. Lots of things might be hostile if you show up in their backyard...

So weirdly... my silly setting full of naked alien girls is more realistic than one about fighting off an alien invasion of super bugs. Maybe the naked part is not more realistic... but the basic premise is. :)

(Also, once you start looking into the Fermi Paradox the questions get really weird... it's not logical that we don't see stars full of evidence of aliens, and the fermi paradox is all about the attempts to explain this, none of which holds up well, which causes those studying it no end of frustration. Space should look like a jammed up freeway in LA during rush hour.)

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JoeBobMack ๐Ÿšซ

@tenyari

Thanks for the comment!

Plus having been watching a lot of hard science studies in research for my own story

Care to share your top two or three?

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tenyari ๐Ÿšซ
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@JoeBobMack

Where I started with this is watching the YouTube channels of Isaac Arthur, PBS Space Time, and PBS Eons.

Once you get those on subscribe and watch a few YouTube will start recommending more and more stuff that is science based rather than 'Space Aliens and Flat Earth' based... ;)

I like to know as much of the real science as possible so that when I break away from it in a story I can 'know where I'm going' and break for story effectiveness rather than having it be random.

Its similar to some of the great surreal painters. People like Picasso were masters of anatomy, which let their unreal looking work have so much impact as they deviated for intentional impact rather than being unsure how many legs a human has as AI Art tools often do... ;)

tenyari ๐Ÿšซ

@Quasirandom

Well, a new entry in my 'alien girl' setting went out this morning.

a couple of days ago in the middle of writing my next part of Angelita's story, a stray though hit me about her grand-daughter's life a century in the future.

21,480 words later... the beginnings of that thought are solid enough to give me a chapter 1 for an 'Alien Girl Naked at Blanke Schande' story.

Blanke Schande is an old setting popular in CMNF stories - an unrealistic university where the female students attend nude. I've now given it the "deep dive" treatment of 'how could a place like this exist, and if it did exist in my 'Naked Alien Girl' setting what would that mean. I'd been planning this one since last year when I wrote a story that ended with the character announcing she wanted to go there.

Now she's there... and chapter 1 is 'up to night before classes start'.

This one makes for the 'my Alien Girls finally arrive in the USA' - which means it has a take on the USA that is informed by my experience, and is set more or less where I grew up in and among the Mexican Americans of Los Angeles (people who didn't immigrate to the USA, the USA moved to them - and many of them are actually California Indians that became culturally Mexican in the 300 years that California was part of Spain/Mexico), and the Tribes of Central California. But as they might exist in an Alien future.

My protagonist though, is a part Alien "actual" Mexican - so future chapters will touch on her impressions of 'Gringos' and of her Northern cousins.

This is all another step in my my attempt to spark a setting that can be good for CMNF and ENF fiction while also both light hearted AND adult. :)

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