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Zombie Sex Plague

Crumbly Writer

An idea I've had for years, but have zero interest in writing, is to write an apocalyptic story where a newfound virus--instead of causing people to rise from the dead--damages the area of the brain regulating behavioral control. Thus those infected will literally have sex with anyone, regardless of any risks. You can identify them because of the 'mindless glare' in their eyes.

The story could be part sex-romp, part investigation of the cause, part search for a cure and part treatment. Plenty of sex and lots of complexity to sink your teeth into.

richardshagrin

@Crumbly Writer

complexity to sink your teeth into.


Now you have a vampire or possibly werewolf story.

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Dominions Son

@Crumbly Writer

Thus those infected will literally have sex with anyone, regardless of any risks.


Shouldn't that be anything?

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aubie56

@Dominions Son

"Anything" would imply a run on dept. store manikins.

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Dominions Son

@aubie56

Dogs, cats, horses, the kitchen table.

G Younger

If you had cheerleaders added it would be perfect!

tppm

Sexually transmitted?

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Crumbly Writer

@tppm

Sexually transmitted?

I hadn't actually thought it through that far, but it's hard to have an apocalyptic event if it's all based on sexual congress. After all, there's always a sizable amount of people not having sex at any given time (like everyone's parents!).

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garymrssn

@Crumbly Writer

You might consider creating a Universe around the idea. You would have to delve into it deep enough to create the constraints but it might be worth the effort.

tppm
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@Crumbly Writer


I hadn't actually thought it through that far, but it's hard to have an apocalyptic event if it's all based on sexual congress. After all, there's always a sizable amount of people not having sex at any given time (like everyone's parents!).


Since one of the symptoms, possibly the only symptom, is an insatiable sexual apatite, than it being sexually transmitted would make sense, particularly from the viewpoint of the virus (or whatever). The only problem I see would be how did patient zero get it.

I know, patient zero fucked a bonobo, who have had it since they split from standard chimps, and have evolved around it.

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Not_a_ID

Sounds almost like an XXXecil story setup, only without (most of) the infected turning into sex crazed women.

Not_a_ID
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@richardshagrin

Now you have a vampire or possibly werewolf story.


Or a were-bimbo, and there are at least a handful of stories I recall which pursue that too.

Crumbly Writer

@tppm

Since one of the symptoms, possibly the only symptom, is an insatiable sexual apatite, than it being sexually transmitted would make sense, particularly from the viewpoint of the virus (or whatever). The only problem I see would be how did patient zero get it.

I'm not as fond of that direction, as it implies that only 'sluts' get infected, whereas in mine the victims are completely random (i.e. Priests, Nuns, Politicians, and little old ladies would be affected as well as all the 'beautiful' people). The potential to describe the odd-parings, while mothers hurry to shelter their wide-eyed children would be too delicious to skip over.

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Not_a_ID

@Crumbly Writer

An idea I've had for years, but have zero interest in writing, is to write an apocalyptic story where a newfound virus--instead of causing people to rise from the dead--damages the area of the brain regulating behavioral control. Thus those infected will literally have sex with anyone, regardless of any risks. You can identify them because of the 'mindless glare' in their eyes.


I'd think something more like thr Bodysnatchers or The Faculty approach could be interesting to some degree. Just make the event viral instead, maybe gradually boosting sex drives to very high levels while likewise lowering (sexual) inhibitions at least slightly in the process.

Depending on the "ramp up" of their sex drive(and their self control) the earliest carriers (and their victims) may not have realized anything was changed by an outside factor.

If you give them some kind of (passive) means of making others sexually pliable(*) and you have something that could easily transfer via bodily fluids with lots of opportunity, at least until it gets detected/noticed. (*)Whether that means is some exotic pheromone, esp, reaction to another different (earlier) infection, or simply an earlier stage of the disease is another matter.

Which gives options for underground sex clubs/groups forming or suddenly growing in all kinds of strange places people wouldn't normally expect. Once their sex drive changes(paired with impaired inhibitions) hits a certain point, it starts becoming more public. (But if everyone in that area is "sufficiently infected" than it happening in public won't result in any meaningful response)

The hard part in such a scenario is the slower it ramps up(barring an external means of accelerating their change), the more difficult it would need to be to contract. Otherwise practically everybody could be infected before anyone notices.

Of course, there may be people who are resistant or outright immune. As well as the ones that luck into not getting infected by one means or another.

Not_a_ID
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@Crumbly Writer

I'm not as fond of that direction, as it implies that only 'sluts' get infected, whereas in mine the victims are completely random (i.e. Priests, Nuns, Politicians, and little old ladies would be affected as well as all the 'beautiful' people). The potential to describe the odd-parings, while mothers hurry to shelter their wide-eyed children would be too delicious to skip over.


Motibate(account is now closed and purged) on Tumblr had a concept for an airborne "Nude Plague" that had over a 95% infection rate. Of course, given his particular fetishes and desire to pursue an erotic angle, it didn't stop at getting naked. ALL sexual inhibitions were removed once it activated in someone(once they were "mature"(18YO) of course), sex drives went way up, and everybody who was infected became fully bisexual.

The infection ran in stages, and while the infected once "activated" were always contagious. Its natural progression was quite slow(taking years to hit the next stage in most places), and even that next stage only really had impacts at night. (A second stage nude plague victim could wear clothes and behave normally in daylight, only at night did the compulsions come out in force)

Once people hit the later stages, they discovered that they could infect and greatly accelerate their progression to stage 2 and beyond by remaining in close proximity to their victims. IIRC, at stage 3 a compulsion to infect others came into play as well.

IIRC, Motibate did give permission for others to play in that setting, at least until it was taken down. The only person I know of to take Motibate up on it was bi-caps, who has a 21,00-ish word draft story set in the opening days of the Nude Plague, only his(?) story seemed to break a couple continuity points with Motibate's version. The bi-caps story in that setting remains available. (And was linked to by motibate at one point)

...But going back to quote on top. One of the caption pics motibate did post had a Nude Plague infected mother text messaging her children for them to, uh, come home for a "family meeting."

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Capt Zapp

@Not_a_ID

The only person I know of to take Motibate up on it was bi-caps, ... only his(?) story seemed to break a couple continuity points with Motibate's version.


Well, since Motibate's story is no longer available to provide anything to have continuity to, anyone could basically write anything using bi-cap's story for a foundation, right?

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Not_a_ID

@Capt Zapp

Well, since Motibate's story is no longer available to provide anything to have continuity to, anyone could basically write anything using bi-cap's story for a foundation, right?


I guess that depends on what Bi-Caps is game for allowing.

https://projects.bi-caps.com/nude-plague/

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Not_a_ID

It should be noted that the scenario Bi-Caps went with progressed exceptionally quickly in comparison to Motibate's version. Compressing the timeline considerably, and so far as any such "stages" or "phases" may be concerned, outright ignored them entirely, or abbreviated them to the point of being meaningless. (He had characters hitting the compulsive nocturnal nudity stage within weeks, not years. The characters in his story are in week 5 and go from initial infection straight to stage 3(need to strip others) through a plot device within a day)

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Crumbly Writer

The idea of beginning a Universe sounds interesting, and the responses here suggest there may be an interest in it.

I'll consider writing a basic 'proof of concept' piece which details the standards for a universe, and then whoever wants to can write their own stories based on that. The one caveat, though, is that while I'd like to see the story progressing as characters figure out what's happening with the disease, I'd prefer to keep those 'advances' limited to keep the Universe open-ended, so I'd suggest other authors run their ideas by me first so I can either accept or refute changes to the basic storyline.

I had someone asking about writing a story set in Australia using my "Great Death" story universe, but my next book changes all the basics as the characters slowly pieced together what was happening. So if I take the 'Universe' approach, I'll wash my hands of adding anything to the story once I write the introductory piece.

I'll let everyone know when I have something worth posting.

Not_a_ID

The question is more on if there would be interest in writing in such a setting.

The other matter is how "zombie" the sexual zombies are. Are we talking standard zombies, or something more like XXXecil's work where the infected are mostly rational and retain at least some higher functions, but become consumed with an insatiable and overpowering drive for more sex?

Or something more like the "Nude Plague" thing where the virus just screws with libidos(/sexuality) and inhibitions but keeps everything else mostly normal? (People can still exercise self control, it's just a question of if they want to)

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Crumbly Writer

@Not_a_ID

The question is more on if there would be interest in writing in such a setting.

The other matter is how "zombie" the sexual zombies are. Are we talking standard zombies, or something more like XXXecil's work where the infected are mostly rational and retain at least some higher functions, but become consumed with an insatiable and overpowering drive for more sex?

Or something more like the "Nude Plague" thing where the virus just screws with libidos(/sexuality) and inhibitions but keeps everything else mostly normal? (People can still exercise self control, it's just a question of if they want to)

I'm thinking a variety. Rather than simply 'acting out', those infected would throw caution to the wind, chasing anyone they see on the street. They retain some rationality, but would rapidly lose even that much.

This is much more a social/medical drama with a chance to explore unusual pairings. Essentially, anyone writing in this universe would explore how people deal with a medical crisis with infected people running amok (i.e. medical personal resisting sexual offers while trying to help people--with some falling prey to temptation.

As usual, it's hard to describe a vision for a project, so I'd have to write something to flesh out my ideas on the subject.

Not_a_ID

So XXXecil without the (genderbending/)physical transformation aspect strictly speaking. (Transition to sex zombie not withstanding) Possibly without some higher levels of rationality at play in regards to luring in the unwary, but may not be universally so.

tppm
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@Crumbly Writer


I'm not as fond of that direction, as it implies that only 'sluts' get infected, whereas in mine the victims are completely random (i.e. Priests, Nuns, Politicians, and little old ladies would be affected as well as all the 'beautiful' people). The potential to describe the odd-parings, while mothers hurry to shelter their wide-eyed children would be too delicious to skip over.


Why only "sluts" most victims would be rape victims as the people already infected would want to have sexual relations with anyone who would hold still long enough, regardless of whether such "holding still" was voluntary.

If you do set up a "Universe" I suggest, considering SoL's rules, that the virus, or whatever, remains dormant until puberty, which in this universe would be at or about 14.

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Crumbly Writer

@tppm

If you do set up a "Universe" I suggest, considering SoL's rules, that the virus, or whatever, remains dormant until puberty, which in this universe would be at or about 14.

Making the virus dormant for certain age wouldn't restrict physical attacks. Instead, I'd stress that parents were busy keeping the young indoors where they were safe, whereas service personal (police, EMTs, government workers, health officials, or just plain curious) would have to run the gamete out on the street. That eliminates any 'underaged' encounters, while keeping the story semi-medical emergency based.

Those infected start out largely rational--causing confusion as girlfriends, ex-wives, crushes show up looking for a 'hook-up', but fairly quickly (over a couple weeks) slowly lose their rationality until they'd have to be guarded in special medical facilities (where they could still be visited, or escape from if the story requires it). The idea of a bunch of growling, moaning people masterbating extensively in a closed clinic springs to mind--with the temptations of the medical/guard staffs.

The 'slow loss over time' idea allows for plenty of semi-innocent encounters with unlikely participants, while still preserving the 'health crisis'/apocalyptic aspects of the story.

The "sluts" comment was an appearance I was hoping to avoid (i.e. if the disease is passed through sex, then only those sexually promiscuous would be infected). By keeping the disease viral, anyone could be infected, regardless of their background.

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Not_a_ID

@tppm

If you do set up a "Universe" I suggest, considering SoL's rules, that the virus, or whatever, remains dormant until puberty, which in this universe would be at or about 14.


Or some other marker for (a) "physiological maturity" threshold. Ie. being able to safely bear children, instead of simply being able to become pregnant(could be tied to development around the pelvis), although that one doesn't fully address the male side of things. Or alternatively, fusing of the bone structures in the cranium, which for many people doesn't complete until their 20's as I recall.

Perv Otaku

The main stumbling block I had in coming up with a sex/rape zombie concept involves the main horrors of the zombie genre:
1. They used to be people, and you can become one too
2. It doesn't take much for them to kill you

Specifically, number 2. It's hard to do a porn story about rape zombies if nobody gets zombie raped much, but it's hard to have zombie rape be as horrifying a thing as a traditional zombie bite if zombie rape isn't deadly.

I eventually came up with a concept that combines rape zombies with ideas from a couple of other things and moves it all in a different direction, but it seems like the above is still the weak point of the whole thing.

Although some others hasn't let that stop them or found a way around it, for example http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2271565/

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Not_a_ID

@Perv Otaku

Although some others hasn't let that stop them or found a way around it, for example http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2271565/


Haha. Have to love the ingenuity of the Japanese when it comes to their hentai/live action pornography. I think it's nearly impossible to visit a concept in that field which they haven't already ventured into the general neighborhood of at least once.

tppm

You could have the "zombie" infection only effect the libido. Otherwise the infected continue to function normally. Some of the story conflict could be an infected person trying to resist his or her orders of magnitude increased sex drive.

I still think it should be sexually transmitted though. If you care about such things* the zombie organism (virus, bacteria, fungus, whatever) "wants" to pass it's genome on, it is passed on sexually so it encourages it's victims to have more sex, ideally with as many partners as possible.

*as technobabble plausibility

Not_a_ID
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@Crumbly Writer

The "sluts" comment was an appearance I was hoping to avoid (i.e. if the disease is passed through sex, then only those sexually promiscuous would be infected). By keeping the disease viral, anyone could be infected, regardless of their background.


Decided this needed a minor augment. Just because it's "viral" doesn't mean its wildly contagious. Different virus strains spread by different means. Such as HIV/AIDS for example, it is primarily a STD, but can also be picked up by way of exchanging bodily fluids(specifically blood, others bodily fluids are technically possible, but the quantities involved are so large, its unlikely).

Of course, in that context, Ebola qualifies as a STD, among other things. :)

But even with a blood borne illness, as happened with HIV/AIDS initially, they viewed as a standard STD at first, and had no reliable means of detecting it (at contagious levels) once they did bother to actually look for it in blood banks for some time. So that is a viable contagion vector.

Which is where my earlier comment about how contagious it is vs how quickly symptoms start to show + how quickly the symptoms are (Correctly) identified as being viral and the means of transmission determined.

If it plays out slowly enough you get the scenario where practically anyone who needs regular blood transfusions + anyone who has sex outside of a (truly) closed group of people ends up infected before anyone realizes there is a problem. But that also means the buildup would have to be very slow, and practically inevitable for most people once it's realized that its a thing(because they already have it, and are presumably contagious well before their symptoms become more obvious).

The only question is if there are ways to "Accelerate" the progression of the illness at that point(but that also creates problems with Patient 0 and Patient 1 to account for how they didn't inadvertently cause each other's symptoms to develop more quickly until reaching the point of being "a noticed problem")

Of course, there are other ways to play with it too. If it's a blood based illness, there is nothing saying there couldn't have been some kind of conspiracy to deliberately infect people with it using some kind of vaccine ploy to either initiate the "patient 0 phase" or to "kick over" the zombie plague from operating in a "Carrier" mode to a "zombie" mode, where the "kick over" agent may very well be airborne and highly contagious. So then you'll have people with the primary infection, and those with the secondary infection. Possibly even people with the secondary infection without the primary infection(which could be interesting in other ways), but as long as a person doesn't have both, they're safe from becoming zombies.

There are other ways to do it too, something in the drinking water, aerosol spray of some type (lawl Contrails) and so forth.

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Crumbly Writer

@Not_a_ID

Just because it's "viral" doesn't mean its wildly contagious. Different virus strains spread by different means. Such as HIV/AIDS for example, it is primarily a STD, but can also be picked up by way of exchanging bodily fluids(specifically blood, others bodily fluids are technically possible, but the quantities involved are so large, its unlikely).

That's why I initially raise the point, because it affects the plotting of the story. If it's a fast-acting disease it affects the pacing of the story, whereas if it's a slow acting sexual transmitted disease, you get a very different story. The disease might be the same in either case, but the resulting stories would be quite different. But I was also shooting for the 'weird combinations' where great grandmothers, nuns and clergy get it as often as swingers do, simply because that gives you a broader range of interesting characters.

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richardshagrin

@Crumbly Writer

great grandmothers, nuns and clergy ... gives you a broader range of interesting characters.

I can't remember any stories, at least on SOL where these specific occupations/characteristics were used in ways that made the story more interesting than say being male and doing things or having done things that a guy could relate to. I have no experience being a grandmother, a nun or a member of the clergy. I suspect few SOL readers identify with those types of characters. It would be more difficult to draw such characters in a way that would make it easy for me to identify with them.

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Crumbly Writer

@richardshagrin

I have no experience being a grandmother, a nun or a member of the clergy. I suspect few SOL readers identify with those types of characters. It would be more difficult to draw such characters in a way that would make it easy for me to identify with them.

I'm not suggestion we all write 'grandmother' stories, where everyone's main character is someone's grandmother nun. Instead I'm suggesting it's satisfying to include interesting mixes of characters. Rather than having the hot guy chase the hot girl, or more unrealistically, the poor average looking guy collecting a harem of beautiful women, I'm suggesting you show a world where the main character--whoever it happens to be--encounters a wide variety of people so the cast represents a more realistic representation of the world.

Include a few kids, little old ladies, gang members, bums and or down-and-out characters just to spice things up. If all you can write about are hunky (or plain) white male teenagers, then you need to expand your repertoire and work harder on researching your stories. Having every woman being a size DD gets boring incredibly quickly.

Hell, if nothing else, just sprinkle in a few off-beat characters simply to round out a plain vanilla cast. Toss in a little spice to flavor the bland palette of standard characters. Feature a couple exotics (instead of the required Arab fanatic) to showcase your storytelling abilities.

bi-caps

@Not_a_ID

I can't speak for Motibate, but I don't mind anyone using the setting I've created. Goes for most of my other stories as well.

bi-caps

@Not_a_ID

In my defense, there was a reasoning for the accelerated progression, but I never got around to writing that part. :)

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Not_a_ID

@bi-caps

In my defense, there was a reasoning for the accelerated progression, but I never got around to writing that part. :)


You presented a working theory for what was going on in that respect within the story itself, at least where what I called "Stage 3" types were concerned. Doesn't mean it wasn't a plot device of some kind, be it an intelligent virus strain in its own right, nanotechnology(or nano-tech presenting as a virus), or something else. :)

The overall progression still remained considerably faster than Motibate's initial version. It was supposed to cause more of an "exploratory" type of nudity/exposure among the victims for a few years before even getting to the point of compulsive nudity happening at night.

Not saying one version is better than the other, just that the one was notably different in a handful of ways from the one it was based on.

woodenauthor

@Perv Otaku

There is actually novel series by John Ringo that follows a roughly similar virus. Its a rabies variant that effectively and permanently destroys all higher thought processes in something like 99% of its victims, at least those who survive the initial flu-like infection. It doesn't focus as much on the sex lives of the zombies, but some of the survivors mention how their only form of entertainment while trapped in their various shelters was live-action zombie snuff flicks, and one of the characters responsible for clearing areas will occasionally snark on the zombies who are smart enough to realize that she is a she, but not smart enough to realize she's wearing full on body armor.

I've been tempted to write a series of stories based off a similar plot line, but haven't managed to decide whether or not it would fall into a larger post-apocalyptic universe that's been cooking on the back burner.

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Crumbly Writer

@woodenauthor

I've been tempted to write a series of stories based off a similar plot line, but haven't managed to decide whether or not it would fall into a larger post-apocalyptic universe that's been cooking on the back burner.

Nowadays, there are SO many PA stories (zombie, alien invasion, end of the world) that you could write several and never cross the same line twice. I'm now writing my second, a zombie apocalypse this time.

Sterling

Hmmm. Just saw this topic now. I wrote something 3 1/2 years ago that is close to this..
"The Slut and Rapist Virus".
http://storiesonline.net/s/72971/the-slut-and-rapist-virus

The premise is that the famed bonobo omnisexuality is actually the effect of a microbe intent on spreading itself, and when it makes the leap to humans, we get sluts and rapists. No zombies, however.

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Crumbly Writer

@Sterling

Hmmm. Just saw this topic now. I wrote something 3 1/2 years ago that is close to this..
"The Slut and Rapist Virus".

The premise is that the famed bonobo omnisexuality is actually the effect of a microbe intent on spreading itself, and when it makes the leap to humans, we get sluts and rapists. No zombies, however.

I see a sequel, "The Slut and Rapist Virus II: Sluttier and Rapier, Zombie Edition".

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