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StaticBat83
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I was thinking of two story ideas. They are pretty much the same but the roles reversed. Which idea do you think would be better?

Guy finds out that his girlfriend has been cheating on him because for some reason she thought he had a small penis. He had walked in on her and her lover and the lover did in c fact have a bigger penis. She sees him and tries to explain why she cheated, she thinks he's about to calm down or about to leave when she accidentally says she had found out he was going to propose and she wanted to get having sex with big cocks out of her system. Without thinking he says she'd be very surprised with his size. Then he storms off. He knows someone who was working on an experiment that could enlarge his penis much bigger that very day. It works and he goes back to his girlfriend and she's surprised he came back and actually had a big dick. After the sex he eventually finds out the experiment had some side effects. He needs sex often and he can't help himself around other women. His girlfriend could catch him with her sister or his sister, and thinks it's only fair since she had sex with that guy he caught her with and some guys he didn't even know about. But he might not stop there with the sister. Some girls end up pregnant.

For the alternate story girl finds out her boyfriend is going to propose to her and she's afraid that once they get married he'll be mad once he finds out her pussy isn't very tight. She told him she was a virgin or had only had sex once a long time ago with a small diced guy. She says she doesn't believe in sexual toys for the pussy. So she goes to someone who can tighten her pussy and regrow her hymen. She doesn't know of any other way. After she has sex with her boyfriend after he proposes she finds out her sex drive is out of control. She gets caught by her man doing it with either his or her brother or even both at the same time. She may do it with other guys too. But her guy probably won't find out about them. She freaks out over the fact that not only does her vagina and hymen always return to the condition of a virgin after not having sex for a time but she also finds out she's pregnant.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@StaticBat83

She told him she was a virgin or had only had sex once a long time ago with a small diced guy. She says she doesn't believe in sexual toys for the pussy. So she goes to someone who can tighten her pussy and regrow her hymen. She doesn't know of any other way.


1. He knows he isn't her first, even if he thinks her previous partners were of below average size, regrowing the hymen should make him suspicious.

2. As far as tightening up her pussy, there are real, conventional cosmetic surgeries for that. Yes, it's a real thing.

Replies:   StaticBat83
StaticBat83

@Dominions Son

The part about the hymen was for in case they hadn't had sex or he thought she was a virgin.

I did say,

She told him she was a virgin "OR" had only had sex once a long time ago with a small dicked guys.

So if the story went in the direction of him knowing about only the guys with small dicks the hymen regrow in part would be left out of the story.

And I did say she doesn't know any other way just for times like this so people wouldn't assume she already knew that stuff. Maybe she's not very bright or she was never made aware of those methods.

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Dominions Son
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@StaticBat83


She told him she was a virgin "OR" had only had sex once a long time ago with a small dicked guys.


Still seems to be going a bit far.

It is in fact quite possible for a girl/woman to lose her hymen without sex (including insertable toys as sex).

Groin injuries from a number of different sports will do the job.

It's easy enough to explain away, so why go to the trouble of restoring it.


And I did say she doesn't know any other way just for times like this so people wouldn't assume she already knew that stuff. Maybe she's not very bright or she was never made aware of those methods.


Still seems odd that she would go to some mad scientist type before talking to her own doctor about the issue first. Her doctor would know about what is possible via cosmetic/reconstructive surgery.

Heck, there are supposed to be exercises a woman can do to tighten up down there. It is a muscle after all.

Replies:   Crumbly Writer
StaticBat83

Maybe the guy had been looking for a virgin girl and she did something stupid like tell the guy she was a virgin (unless she says she had sex before) and her hymen was intact.

Maybe it was her doctor that suggested this new experiment for her. Maybe he did something like this because he was developing this method to see what it would to to society. Or he was trying to be mischievous or something.

Okay in stories like on this site or any kind of stories the stories are not always very simple. It's not like every story would have the girl go, "Okay I've been a slut and had lots of sex." Or the guy would think wow her pussy is very loose so they must all be like that. Not all stories would want to just have the girl go through normal excersizes or surgery to tighten her pussy up. Some stories have complications and twists and turns. Maybe to keep them entertaining or keep them from being like other stories with similar situations.

Is that okay?

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@StaticBat83

Not all stories would want to just have the girl go through normal excersizes or surgery to tighten her pussy up. Some stories have complications and twists and turns. Maybe to keep them entertaining or keep them from being like other stories with similar situations.

Is that okay?


If you want to try and write it, go ahead.

Keep in mind though, that suspension of disbelief only goes so far. A story that feels implausible even by it's own internal rules is not going to do well.

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StaticBat83
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@Dominions Son

Especially if you have no imagination. Not saying you don't have one. Just saying some people don't.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son

@StaticBat83

The truth is stranger than fiction. This is so because the truth can get away with being strange and inexplicable, but fiction has to make sense to succeed.

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StaticBat83
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@Dominions Son

I wasn't exactly going with truth for my story ideas. But I'm getting the vibe that Fairey tales or sci-fi aren't your kind of stories. There are some elements in those that could actually happen but lots of stuff that couldn't happen.

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Dominions Son
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@StaticBat83


But I'm getting the vibe that Fairey tales or sci-fi aren't your kind of stories. There are some elements in those that could actually happen but lots of stuff that couldn't happen.


No, I am a big fan of fantasy and sci-fi.

Fiction having to make sense isn't about whether it could or couldn't happen in the real world. Lots of things happen in the real world that don't make sense. Reality is, whether we can make sense of it or not.

Fiction making sense is about internal consistency, does the story violate it's own internal rules. Fiction making sense is about the readers being able to understand your character's motives.

Also when it comes to suspension of disbelief, the closer your story is to the real world, to your reader's every day experience, the harder it gets for many readers to suspend disbelief over the things you get wrong.

Magic and Star Trek type technology are way outside side the every day experience of your readers. Readers will accept these things with little trouble.

On the other hand, if you make gravity behave in a way that is contrary to your reader's experience/knowledge, you will have to work harder to explain this in a way that helps the reader maintain the suspension of disbelief.

By the same token, real people sometimes do things that are irrational or unexpected. But if you are writing a story where a given female character is presented early as a prim and proper prude but then later acts like a complete slut with no transition or explanation your readers are going to be asking themselves: What the fuck just happened? Why did that character do that?

If you want your readers to enjoy your stories, your character's actions have to make sense in terms of how you have developed that character up to that point in the story.

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Crumbly Writer
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@Dominions Son


It is in fact quite possible for a girl/woman to lose her hymen without sex (including insertable toys as sex).


Hell, it's fairly common for many young girls to lose it either from riding their bikes or on horseback.

Also, it's a common myth that a loose vagina is due to excessive sex. Some women are just looser than others, regardless of their sexual history. Yes, you can tighten it up with Kegal exercises, but there's only so much wiggle room in either direction. Many tramps have tight vaginas, while many virgins are as loose as a goose. Any man with a lick of sense knows to keep his mouth shut, regardless of their first impulses.

In general, the whole 'mad scientist' gynecologist has been vastly overplayed. Tell me, why would any woman woman undertake a risky, experimental surgery on such a vital part of their anatomy, especially given the high incidence of failures with standard procedures?

It's easy enough to just say "Of course I'm a virgin, but I was just active in sports!"

In essence, you're asking readers to swallow a very hard-to-believe fantasy where there's really no gain to either party.

If you want to go for a 'she suddenly became a sex-addict' storyline, why not have her experience a traumatic event, or even suffer a minor brain injury? Or better yet, just because she's sick of the way things are. Those are each much easier to sell to readers.

Dominions Son

@Crumbly Writer

In essence, you're asking readers to swallow a very hard-to-believe fantasy where there's really no gain to either party.


I'm not the one asking that. I'm trying to get across not only that it's hard to swallow, but why. I haven't been succeeding.

Replies:   StaticBat83
StaticBat83

@Dominions Son

My plan was for the reader to know that she isn't exactly innocent when it comes to sex and that she has had a somewhat wild sex life before she started dating her current guy. But she wants him to think she is innocent. Heck the guy could know about her past but just let's the girl think he doesn't. Same for the other story.

StaticBat83

@Dominions Son

There would be plenty of set up in the story about the weird stuff that you seem so against. And besides even if there wasn't there have been plenty of stories that seem like they're set in the normal and real world that have pulled off weird and strange twists.

Dominions Son

@StaticBat83

And besides even if there wasn't there have been plenty of stories that seem like they're set in the normal and real world that have pulled off weird and strange twists.


There are a lot more that try it and fail than that pull it off successfully.

StaticBat83

@Crumbly Writer

Well you bring up good points. When I started out writing ideas on sites I went into very great detail and even put in some history or reasons why some things happen. Then people would always say things like how I've put lots of thought into the idea so why not do the story myself. So I put just a little less detail in and people complain that there isn't enough detail and say the story wouldn't be worth it. And also maybe when I put these ideas up now a days maybe I just don't want to put all the spoilers. I sometimes feel like if I put all the details in the description that people are asking for or suggesting that I'd have the full story laid out for them. But some of these notes left behind makes me think that maybe I should just have it so that either the guy or the girl depending on which version of the story should be living in a fairytale land and even though they're worried they help an old lady who turns out to be their fairy godmother or some magical being who tried to help them out by giving them a gift that may or may not end up turning into a curse.

StaticBat83

@Dominions Son

Not all the details are going to be put in the description. Maybe I have ideas on how it'll make sense or maybe somebody could give an idea on how it could work or say hey interesting idea but it might be better if this happens in that part instead, or use imagination. No insult meant.

Dominions Son

@StaticBat83

here would be plenty of set up in the story about the weird stuff that you seem so against.


I'm not against the weird stuff in and of itself.

The "weird stuff" is extreme and experimental.

My issue is with why would the character in question willingly resort to such extreme measures, jumping over more conventional and less risky alternatives in the process.

If she were tricked into it, becoming an unwilling and/or unknowing experimental subject, that would be different.

StaticBat83

People can do desperate things when in love or afraid. Maybe the person turns to those methods because they felt that they would lose their loved one if they found out about the sex history and maybe they were told that there would be absolutely no risk to their health.

Also I posted a reply to Crumbly I think about changing this to a fairytale world and having someone cast a spell or curse on the main character withought their knowledge.

That idea might make this easier for people to accept. Might. What do you think?

Dominions Son

@StaticBat83

That idea might make this easier for people to accept. Might. What do you think?


It would. It could also work if she went for traditional cosmetic surgery and got experimented on against her will.

Dominions Son

@StaticBat83

People can do desperate things when in love or afraid.


They can. However, that does not mean jumping over more conventional means of achieving their goals where available.

Maybe the person turns to those methods because they felt that they would lose their loved one if they found out about the sex history


The problem with this rational is that conventional cosmetic surgery would meet this end every bit as well as the proposed experimental treatment. Perhaps if she tried conventional surgery first but wasn't happy with the result.

and maybe they were told that there would be absolutely no risk to their health.


Maybe, if they went to some quack in Mexico or a third world country.

Cosmetic / reconstructive surgery is not unregulated. There is a small pile of consent and risk acknowledgment/wavier forms you have to sign for even conventional procedures, even more for procedures that are considered experimental.

The only plausible scenario where this could happen in a modern western nation is if she was part of an experimental group to evaluate the effectiveness and safety of the procedure. But to be above board with that there is a lot of paper work and regulation and they wouldn't get away with calling it risk free.

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