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KinkyWinks

When using the Advanced Search, if it brings up a thousand stories, is there a way to reverse the order and start with the last one?

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@KinkyWinks

near the bottom of the search form are two buttons to change what it searches on and the display order - simply click on them to get the drop down boxes of options one will do this for you.

KinkyWinks

Whoops, I thought the whole page was Advanced Search. At the bottom of the page there is a Story Text Search where you enter words. Can you reverse the order of the results?

Replies:   Ross at Play
Ross at Play

@KinkyWinks

Can you reverse the order of the results?

At the bottom of the page there's an option for Ascending/Descending order next to the sort category.
If I understand your question correctly, the answer is yes.

Ernest Bywater

At this point I'm guessing you're using a mobile device or some layout that's different to the classic style for a PC.

On the Advanced Search page I see two boxes, one big and one small.

The big box is long and broken up into 4 segments labelled

Text
Dates
Options
then a sub box of option

below that are the buttons - Start Search - Reset Form - Save Search

In that little sub box are 3 options of

Sort by xxxx
In xxxxx Oder
jump to page xxxx of the results

where the xxxx represents a drop down box in the first two and an entry field in the third.

The Sort by options are - name, score, author, size, downloads and a few more - - default is by Name

The in xxx order options are Ascending or Descending with a default of ascending. Change this to Descending and the order is reversed.

The smaller box for Story text search is one I've never used but looks like it checks inside the stories for specific text.

KinkyWinks

It is the bottom one that I am asking about. I have found that typing one word such as boat, will bring up all stories with that word. In this case a lot of stories.

Ross at Play

Lazeez, please think of this as a bug report/feature request.
Looking at KinkyWinks question, I could not see why both kinds of text search, story title and text search, were not combined; with a button to choose which; and then all of the search type options (All words, boolean search, etc.) available for both.
I then noticed the text search was only available to premier members.
I suggest the design of that page is worth a rethink and the programming then required doesn't seem too onerous for you.

Ernest Bywater

@Ross at Play

Looking at KinkyWinks question, I could not see why both kinds of text search, story title and text search, were not combined; with a button to choose which; and then all of the search type options (All words, boolean search, etc.) available for both.


I think you'll find to do both searches at once will take up way too much in the way of time and resources. The current system seems to work that the Text Search overrides the upper box search, but leaving the text empty allows you to use the main search box, while it already allows for a search on the text of a story blurb and / or title text.

Ernest Bywater

@Ross at Play

Lazeez, please think of this as a bug report/feature request.


What KinkyWinks wants to do could be done just by adding a choice to the Text Search field to sort in ascending or descending order. That would be a lot easier than what Ross is suggesting.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@KinkyWinks

It is the bottom one that I am asking about. I have found that typing one word such as boat, will bring up all stories with that word. In this case a lot of stories.


Contents search returns results by relevance. To reverse the results means to return the least relevant document. Not useful in any reasonable system. So it's not doable.

Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

@Ross at Play

Looking at KinkyWinks question, I could not see why both kinds of text search, story title and text search, were not combined; with a button to choose which; and then all of the search type options (All words, boolean search, etc.) available for both.


Not feasible to combine relevance sorted results with meta data search.

Contents search does search all the textual information. So, title, author name, description, tags and text contents are searched. The results are weighed to give more importance to title, author description before the actual contents. So if the keywords are found in the title, author name, description or tags, then those results will be on top.

Try searching for 'John' and the top results will be stories with John in the title and John in the pen name.

That kind of weighing and sorting by relevance preclude the use of other meta data.

KinkyWinks

Thanks everyone, now that I know how it works I can see no need to look as deep.

awnlee jawking

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

Try searching for 'John' and the top results will be stories with John in the title and John in the pen name.


That's not always a good thing. I recently tried to help with a 'lost story' request and used the text search. Unfortunately the vast majority of results, and there were so many I was disinclined to scan through them all, had the search term in the title or the pen name. An option for the search to ignore titles and pen names would have been useful.

AJ

Switch Blayde

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

If I remember right, the text search is by chapter. So if I know two words are in the story and put them in the text search, I will not find the story if those words are in separate chapters.

That was always frustrating.

Ross at Play

@Lazeez Jiddan (Webmaster)

The results are weighed to give more importance to title, author description before the actual contents. So if the keywords are found in the title, author name, description or tags, then those results will be on top.

Thanks, Lazeez. That would mean the current searches are already better than what KinkyWinks and I wre asking for. :-)

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