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Crumbly Writer

After spending the week doing accounting shit (something I'm NOT suited for), I couldn't focus on writing yet, so I wasted the afternoon learning how to produce my own wrap-around print covers. That's something I've always wanted, but wasn't sure how to ask someone for if I only have the one cover photo.

I've already managed to crank out two covers, as well as figuring out how to create adjustable size wraparounds (where you adjust the size of the spine when you add or lose pages).

It's amazing what you can do with a non-productive day (other than ranting at people online, or tweeting about how yours is bigger than the other guy's).

By the way, anyone know how to create text blocks in Photoshop? I keeping having to manually justify my paragraphs, which I know is a waste of time. :(

The Outsider

@Crumbly Writer

In Illustrator, which I'm more familiar with, you can highlight the text and select full-justification from either the "Text" menu or an option button at the top. (The buttons appear when you select the text tool from the side menu.) If you're talking about creating a large text area to type in, then click, hold and drag until you have one the size you want.

Again this is in Illustrator, but I'm guessing PS is similar. I'm only a hack so a professional PS user might have more accurate advice.

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Crumbly Writer

@The Outsider

In Illustrator, which I'm more familiar with, you can highlight the text and select full-justification from either the "Text" menu or an option button at the top. (The buttons appear when you select the text tool from the side menu.) If you're talking about creating a large text area to type in, then click, hold and drag until you have one the size you want.

That doesn't seem to work with Photoshop, as there are no text blocks you define (bounded areas where text is restricted to). I found, late last night, some brief info in the Adobe help about it. Apparently you've got to select the various text messages and then do a complicated combination click, but I haven't had a chance to try it out yet. You'd think you could just choose 'Justify', but those options are all grayed out. :(

I'm like you, I know just enough to get me into trouble, but not enough to really excel at anything.

awnlee jawking

@Crumbly Writer

I couldn't focus on writing yet


'Experts' tell us to write anyway on the principle that the first draft is always crap. Personally I'm with you on this one - if the inspiration's not there, I don't write.

AJ

Ross at Play

@Crumbly Writer

That doesn't seem to work with Photoshop, as there are no text blocks you define (bounded areas where text is restricted to).

Based on what I remember from a Photoshop course I did about 20 years, you should import images and text into different 'layers'. It's easier to resize and shift text when it's the only thing in a layer.

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The Outsider
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@Crumbly Writer

Okay, I've just gotten it to work in Photoshop CS6...

Select the Type tool from the tool menu on the left edge of the window. Drag to create the size text box you want; this should create the text box on a separate layer. Click the cursor icon inside the bounding box outline that appears. Type what you want, highlight it and select the paragraph panel from either the Type>Panels menu options or by selecting the paragraph symbol on the right edge (if visible). Select the type of justification you want.

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Ernest Bywater

@Crumbly Writer

That doesn't seem to work with Photoshop, as there are no text blocks you define (bounded areas where text is restricted to).


May I now gloat about it being possible in GIMP, which is free?

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The Outsider

@Ernest Bywater

I wish I'd had the patience to learn GIMP years ago. Now this old dog ain't learnin' any new tricks like that...

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Crumbly Writer

@Ross at Play

Based on what I remember from a Photoshop course I did about 20 years, you should import images and text into different 'layers'. It's easier to resize and shift text when it's the only thing in a layer.

That's what I'm doing, but PS differentiates between 'character mode' (when you manually hit character return between each line) and 'paragraph mode' (where the text automatically wraps. However, I can't select Paragraph mode, and all the justification commands are grayed out. Clearly I'm missing a vital step, but I typically don't include much text in my images (other than titles). Normally I create the image and then add text later in another program.

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Ross at Play
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@Crumbly Writer


That's what I'm doing


Then I don't know how to help you.

Trent C does seem to know how to do it inside Photoshop.

The point I was trying to make was if you can find any other program to create your text, as you want to see it, and save it using any of the image formats, you could then import that image as a separate layer into PS.

One of the many ways to skin a cat is to do most yourself, and subcontract out any tricky bits. ;)

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Crumbly Writer

@The Outsider

Okay, I've just gotten it to work in Photoshop CS6...

Yep, that was the solution. You do build a text box, only it wasn't as obvious as it is in Illustrator. I was trying to fit text in next to a larger photo, so I had to play around with the justification rules, but it's working now.

Thanks!

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The Outsider

@Crumbly Writer

No sweat, disregard the email I just sent then.

Crumbly Writer

@The Outsider

I wish I'd had the patience to learn GIMP years ago. Now this old dog ain't learnin' any new tricks like that...

I found a wonderful MAC graphics program with rivals Photoshop for a onetime $49 fee (vs. indefinite monthly payments to Adobe). Unfortunately, like most Mac programs, it doesn't believe readers know anything about file types. As a result, I can't create transparent files (despite the .png file format being a Mac invention). Thus I'm stuck with an older version (PS 6) of PS.

Crumbly Writer

@Ross at Play

The point I was trying to make was if you can find any other program to create your text, as you want to see it, and save it using any of the image formats, you could then import that image as a separate layer into PS.

That's a valid approach, and what I had been doing, creating the graphics in PS for export somewhere else, but creating the wraparound cover, I wanted to include everything in a single file.

Luckily, due to Trent's advice, I've worked through the problem.

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