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A concern about authors being able to score their own titles

Orinks

Hi everyone,
I visit my story page often, particularly just now to see at what time my chapter repost/revisions was updated.
I note that I see the option to select a score and vote on my own stuff. Is that really a wise idea? While I know the score goes up by more than, say, just one perfect vote of great and it takes multiple votes for the score to move, wouldn't it be possible for me to cheat by voting my own work Amazing every few hours to increase the score?
I would never do this, of course, I love the 6.40 score I have on my story that is not there due to me voting it up.
I just had concerns that with the option that it is even available to me as the author may create some issues.

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater

@Orinks

Yes, because if you want to score it you can do it on your own page you're less likely to create a fake account to do so, and fake accounts just waste site resources.

REP

From my understanding, you could vote 100 times, but only the score of your last vote is considered in the story's score.

Crumbly Writer

Frankly, I'd question any author who wasn't willing to vouch for the quality of his story, but as REP noted, while you can vote whenever you want, they all count as a single vote, your last one. However, the coding required for Lazeez is probably more extensive than removing authors ability to vote for their own stories--especially since it has little effect.

Replies:   REP
REP

@Crumbly Writer

I'd question any author who wasn't willing to vouch for the quality of his story


A writer thinks about his idea for a new story, researches it, spends hours writing the first draft, and additional time and effort finalizing it. The writer is proud of the result, so the story is posted.

I would also look unfavorably on a writer who gave their story less than a 10. Less than a 10 means, the writer posted something less than what the writer thought it could be.

Crumbly Writer

@REP

I would also look unfavorably on a writer who gave their story less than a 10. Less than a 10 means, the writer posted something less than what the writer thought it could be.

I had an issue with goodreads.com for awhile. I couldn't figure out how to post a review of my own story (to reveal information about the story) without scoring it. I feel it was disingenuous to rate my story a 10 before anyone had a chance to vote on it. I've since discovered how to do it (without rating my own work), but I still have several self-rated stories as a result.

In general, it doesn't look good for authors to rate their own works either too high or too low. Better to stick with descriptions and avoid rating your own stories.

Replies:   REP
awnlee jawking

@REP

I would also look unfavorably on a writer who gave their story less than a 10.


I wouldn't give any of my SOL stories a 10. To me, that signifies a story of sufficient quality to attract a dead tree publisher (although the subject matter may well be an impediment).

I've done a significant amount of editing and proofreading for other authors and I believe I can be reasonably objective when rating my work and that of others.

AJ

Replies:   REP
Argon

To give your own story a 10 score would be so Trump :o)

Replies:   Ernest Bywater
Ernest Bywater
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@Argon


To give your own story a 10 score would be so Trump :o)


While to give your own story a 10,
create another account to do it again,
then give all the rest a 1 to be silly,
is just so Hillary.

samuelmichaels

@REP

I would also look unfavorably on a writer who gave their story less than a 10. Less than a 10 means, the writer posted something less than what the writer thought it could be.

Well, no. The story may be the best the writer thought he could make it, but not "Most Amazing Story" (as 10 is defined in the voting form). I don't recall if I scored my own stories, but I would probably score them 7 or 8 -- if I liked how they came out.

If you're going to write, don't pretend to write down. It's going to be the best you can do, and it's the fact that it's the best you can do that kills you.

-- Dorothy Parker.

REP

@Crumbly Writer

Better to stick with descriptions and avoid rating your own stories.


I agree. I believe ratings should reflect you readers opinions.

REP

@awnlee jawking


I wouldn't give any of my SOL stories a 10.


If you felt the story was less than ideal, why did you post it instead of improve it?

Replies:   awnlee jawking
awnlee jawking

@REP

If you felt the story was less than ideal, why did you post it instead of improve it?


I would say less than amazing, rather than less than ideal, but there are two reasons. Firstly the stories I submit here are experimental, representing a learning process on my behalf. And secondly they're the stories I want to tell.

Take my most recent, 'And a Half'. I had fun writing it and I believe some of the readers have enjoyed it too. But structurally it's a train-wreck, and the genre(?) veers all over the place. It's quite definitely not an amazing story, and yet it says what I wanted to say.

AJ

richardshagrin

If a story is pretty average, give it a C and vote it a six. If its better than average, give it a B and vote it a seven. If it is good, or maybe excellent or much better than average, give it an A and vote it an eight. If its better than an eight, its an A plus and vote it a nine. Once in a while, certainly not more often than once a month unless it is an amazing month, you may read a story even better than an A plus. That's when you vote it a ten.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde
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@richardshagrin


Once in a while, certainly not more often than once a month unless it is an amazing month, you may read a story even better than an A plus. That's when you vote it a ten.


And I think it's more than once in a while. Maybe it goes back to a curve. If I were comparing SOL stories to published stories none would get a 10. Maybe none would even get a 6. But I'm not. So when you rate a story you have to rate it against it's peers. So compared to the other stories you read on SOL, is it amazing?

Crumbly Writer

@Switch Blayde

And I think it's more than once in a while. Maybe it goes back to a curve. If I were comparing SOL stories to published stories none would get a 10. Maybe none would even get a 6. But I'm not. So when you rate a story you have to rate it against it's peers. So compared to the other stories you read on SOL, is it amazing?

It depends. Are you grading according to the Olympics (only extraordinary effort receives a 10) or do you rate what you think of the story (which is how Lazeez instructs readers to do). If you think the story speaks to you, most will rate it as a 10, even if it's not excellent prose.

You don't vote stories based on technical quality (something readers aren't expected to understand), instead they vote on how much they enjoyed the story.

Replies:   Switch Blayde
Switch Blayde

@Crumbly Writer

You don't vote stories based on technical quality (something readers aren't expected to understand), instead they vote on how much they enjoyed the story.


I include technical quality in my score.

awnlee jawking

@Switch Blayde

If I were comparing SOL stories to published stories


That's the metric I would use. I believe there are a few stories on SOL that are better than some published stories, only they would not be attractive to dead tree publishers because of content or possibly length.

However I decline to vote because, for example, if I read a good story and think it's worth a 7 or 8, in most cases that would negatively impact the story's score.

AJ

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